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Hopefully he'll even things out in the playoffs. During the regular season, he was killing it on the percentages.
Its perfectly fine to hope for Manu to turn things around but I think its funny anyone would ever use the excuse that he's saving himself or that he "hasn't turned it on all the way". Manu doesn't save himself in meaningless regular season games and you think he's not trying his best out there right now? That's just ridiculous.
Hopefully he'll even things out in the playoffs. During the regular season, he was killing it on the percentages.
He is struggling out there, this is as bad as I've seen healthy manu play. He should consider retirement if he can't pick it up
coasting, tbh... letting Kwami shine...
Whatever dude, Manu started the season very strong
I think part of the problem is he is playing out of his position, same with Neal. Ginobili is at his best at the SG position, not the PG. He is great when coming off of screens. When he catches the pass after going through a screen, he's great at recognizing when to take the three or pump fake. Besides, don't forget about his passing. The only thing he does well at the PG position is the pick & roll, and it seems he can do it with almost anyone on the team. We've seen Parker only do it with Duncan, but we've seen Ginobili do it with Duncan, Splitter, and Diaw this post-season. Don't worry about Ginobili, he'll be fine. Ginobili will show up when needed most, like game 4 against the Jazz when he came in after the starters struggled a bit. That's the type of player Ginobili is.
Also, don't forget that Ginobili is working with the bench mostly while Parker is working with the starters.
The shooting will come and go so we can just hope it comes around and he gets hot.
The stupid turnovers need to be reduced. That's the main thing he's f'd up
Manu has done well, when our main option TP has faltered.. as in Game 1.. Thats what I am bothered about.. and will take.
What matters most is that Manu picks up the slack if the main options in Tim and Tony aren't themselves for whatever reason. And even the limited sample of the six games so far with a mediocre Manu suggests that there isn't a case of too much worry. Manu is contributing well as a facilitator and an energy guy even when he is not shooting well enough.. and that is propitious.
Hard to find a weak link when your team wins 17 games in a row, though.. So guys.. stop the cribbing.
That was one of those posts you won't find funny tomorrow if you come across it.
Quite frankly, Manu's decision-making has been and can be suspect in any game that he's not playing well. From forcing ill-advised entry passes, to carelessly turning the ball over or chucking up the 3's early in the shot clock, it's really been painful to watch.
The fact that the Spurs have been rolling despite Manu's struggles are a true testimony as to who deep and good this team really is.
For his sake and the sake of his confidence, I hope Manu turns it around soon.
He's going to have to bring his A game next series and win the matchup between him and James Harden, its going to be fun to watch
We will need Manu badly against OKC to contain and match Harden production especially in the fourth. Harden is OKC playmaker to end the games, Manu will have his hand full with him. I'm sure he is going to respond to the challenge.
oh and
Usually when you are drunk you cannot hide your real feelings
Maybe.
It would be nice for Sjax to wake up though.
I think you guys are being a little hard on Ginobili. If anything he deserves some more respect than a lot of ya'll are showing.
this.
and he's coasting imo...
I agree with this.
Everyone thinks he is completely fine, just wait until the WCF because the Thunder are a much stronger opponent than the Clippers or Jazz. The Thunder play strong individual and team defense. Their bigs can block shots down low and Manu will inevitably be guarded by James Harden for a lot of that series, and I think Harden could make things tough for Manu.
I would love to be proven wrong, and Manu will need to step up vs OKC.
Manu Ginobili will shine when the road gets rough. We have yet to be challenged by any opponyent and that's when the ultimate compe or will come out.
We will need Manu badly against OKC to contain and match Harden production especially in the fourth. Harden is OKC playmaker to end the games, Manu will have his hand full with him. I'm sure he is going to respond to the challenge.
oh and
Usually when you are drunk you cannot hide your real feelings
I don't worry about Manu Ginobili right. The day I'll start worrying is when the Spurs need him to deliver and he doesn't. So far, the Spurs haven't needed much from him so the fact that he hasn't given a huge amount isn't concerning.
Besides, I like the fact that this playoff run is almost exactly like the 2007 playoff run:
Manu Ginobili's First 7 Games of 2012 Playoff Run
25.9 minutes
11.3 points
3.4 rebounds
4.6 assists
2.3 turnovers
39.4% from the field
28.1% on three-pointers
Manu Ginobili's First 7 Games of 2007 Playoff Run
27.8 minutes
11.6 points
5.6 rebounds
4.0 assists
1.9 turnovers
32.5% from the field
25% on three-pointers
Pretty damn similar, tbh.
Let's hope Ginobili can have anywhere near the success he had to close out the 2007 playoffs:
Manu Ginobili's Final 13 Games of 2007 Playoff Run
31.3 minutes
19.4 points
5.4 rebounds
3.5 assists
2.2 turnovers
43.5% from the field
43.7% on three-pointers
With Ginobili, I'm confident he'll eventually heat up. He always has at some point in the playoffs. And if I got to pick a time to heat up, it'd be in the WCF. Ginobili isn't the type of player who stays hot for looooong stretches so instead of being needlessly hot now I hope he catches fire in the WCF.
^ I missed seeing this. Interesting comparison and very nice background work, timvp.
His D relies almost exclusively on experience now.
He just cant move his feet laterally like he used to.
He still comes up with a heck of a lot of loose balls and I have no idea how he does this. I guess his hands have not slowed down like his feet have.
Makes me wonder if he really is healthy.
getting ball outta manus hands more isnt a bad thing as much as hes turning it over
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