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    On the surface it makes some sense -- there's money and FSU is much more of a football school and would fit the Big [?] decently in that respect. Howevah, if the ACC ends up being one of the conferences that contributes teams to a future playoff scheme, wouldn't that be an easier route for FSU and Clemson than getting in an annual compe ion with UT, OU, OSU and WV?

    Or will a playoff scheme work differently, where strength of schedule is a main determinant? In that case, there's an advantage in moving.

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    On the surface it makes some sense -- there's money and FSU is much more of a football school and would fit the Big [?] decently in that respect. Howevah, if the ACC ends up being one of the conferences that contributes teams to a future playoff scheme, wouldn't that be an easier route for FSU and Clemson than getting in an annual compe ion with UT, OU, OSU and WV?

    Or will a playoff scheme work differently, where strength of schedule is a main determinant? In that case, there's an advantage in moving.
    What your saying makes sense if your alabama, lsu, oklahoma's of the world who seem to always finish near the top 4. But I cannot tell you the last time FSU even finished that high. So in my opinion would you rather finish high in ACC and still finish top 25 but out of the top 4 slots with less $ or finish in the top 25 in the middle of the big 12 with more $$ in your pockets?

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    On the surface it makes some sense -- there's money and FSU is much more of a football school and would fit the Big [?] decently in that respect. Howevah, if the ACC ends up being one of the conferences that contributes teams to a future playoff scheme, wouldn't that be an easier route for FSU and Clemson than getting in an annual compe ion with UT, OU, OSU and WV?

    Or will a playoff scheme work differently, where strength of schedule is a main determinant? In that case, there's an advantage in moving.
    If the ACC can get a guarantee that they will be AQ/playoff then if you want to give yourself the best chance to win a le, I agree, it makes little sense to move.... a la aggy.

    if the Big [] offered a whole lot more money, then it would seem a no brainer to move to that conference.

    Right now, the reported $3 extra million they would probably get from the Big [] over the ACC doesn't seem to be enough, imo, to warrant a move.

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    ayy MajorMike is back? were you deployed or something?

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    ayy MajorMike is back? were you deployed or something?
    Afghanistan?

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    Aye, was in the Afghaninam.

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    Why they left?

    Why did Nebraska leave? Tom Osborne thinks way more of his athletics program that the rest of the nation does and was pissed off that UT got not only more money, but more attention. The TV rights were broken up originally into the person on TV the most, and when it became evident that more people wanted to watch UT during those years on TV than wanted to watch boring grind it out Nebraska, he pitched a . He disguised it under the supposed 'we need a smarter conference' when Nebraska ranked just above average in the B12 and now is undeniably last in the B10. Why they left? Osborne refused to play second fiddle to UT; now he gets to do it with Ohio/Mich/Penn. Heck even Wisc. How's that working out for you Dr. Tom?

    Why did Colorado leave? Colorado left because for YEARS there has been speculation they were a better fit in the P10 than the B8/12. At the very least, the P10 had people in their time zone. When everyone was already reporting that Mizzou was gone to the B10 and Nebraska suddenly went before Mizzou did, CU heard from Dodds and Boren about moving to the P10, which was the original plan. CU wanted to be proactive and make a move that many thought they should have years ago and go before anyone else did. In hindsight, they may have very well not moved if they knew only Nebraska would jump ship in the beginning and everyone else would stay put. Why did CU leave? They jumped the gun.

    Why did atm leave? They were tired of being second fiddle to UT. They got less exposure, less money, less attention and less wins than UT did and they didn't like it. atm has one of the most over inflated self-opinions that you will ever see anywhere on the planet and they weren't about to play second fiddle to a team in their own state. Additionally, their AD was so far in debt (15-25 MIL by most estimates) and they were about to come due on a huge loan they couldn't possibly pay off, and the UT goes and brokers a deal for CU and Neb to pay way less and the money would not go to individual schools like had been first proposed. atm was so super pissed UT did that without their 'permission' and had no way to pay off their debt, so they turned to the SEC. SEC was more than ecstatic to get a foothold into Texas recruiting so they quickly pulled the trigger, agreeing to pay off atm's AD loan and their exit fee with their huge coffers. atm got out of UT's shadow and got their debt paid off. Now they just have to worry about fighting Mississippi State and Ole Miss for 4th in their division. Why did atm leave? Penis Envy and empty pockets.

    Why did Mizzou leave? Mizzou has been on the lookout for a better deal for years. They pros uted themselves to the B10 over and over and the B10 chose Nebraska, instead. Mizzou has long been ing about the fact they get picked last every year in Bowl destinations, still complains daily how they beat KU and yet KU still got the Orange Bowl, and is in general just a whiney kid on the playground that thinks everyone needs to cater to him and is constantly on the lookout for a better deal. Now they just have to worry about fighting Vanderbilt and Kentucky for last in their division. Why did Mizzou leave? They wanted to be a whipping boy for LSU and Bama instead of UT and uo.
    annnnnnnnd boom goes the dynamite.

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    Why they left?


    Money
    fify

    Could have saved a lot of time. If you think the SEC factored in Texas football recruiting into their decision to add us you're just wrong. Always was about the money. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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    delusional Aggy thinking playing SEC schools will get them more Texas recruits, while the reality is that SEC schools who wax Aggy ass will get Texas recruits


    Thanks Aggy for opening up the Texas recruiting market to LSU and Alabama
    http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2013

    Currently the best SEC class for 2013.

    Last edited by Sisk; 05-20-2012 at 10:37 PM.

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    And we know early verbals ALWAYS stay with their first team.

    Right, Thompson Elkins? Right, Bralon Addison? Right, Corey Thompson? Right, Darion Monroe?

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    And we know early verbals ALWAYS stay with their first team.

    Right, Thompson Elkins? Right, Bralon Addison? Right, Corey Thompson? Right, Darion Monroe?
    Fact of the matter is, Texas A&M has the #3 class in the country as it stands and the best in the SEC.

    Where's okie lite on there?


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    Also how about 2012?



    http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2012

    A&M is whottt, 9th in the SEC? Is that good? Is that better than TU?
    Doesn't matter son, we won't even be playing those dirty hippy liberal sips.

    SEC

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    Doesn't matter son, we won't even be playing those dirty hippy liberal sips.

    SEC

    this quote is the future of a&m.

    sad. i thought that school would always have school spirit and not cool club spirit. a&m has turned into a joke with how it tries to maintain its traditional line of thinking despite policy changes. one big hybrid up, imo.

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    Doesn't matter son, we won't even be playing those dirty hippy liberal sips.
    I thought you wanted to.

    Pick a lane.

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    Fact of the matter is, Texas A&M has the #3 class in the country as it stands and the best in the SEC.

    Where's okie lite on there?
    I'll get back to you when the list is actually signees and not non-binding verbal commits.

    Good thing ya'll left the B12, I'd hate for OSU to have to beat down atm for a fifth year in a row with our lesser recruits.

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    I thought you wanted to.

    Pick a lane.
    You thought wrong.

    I'll get back to you when the list is actually signees and not non-binding verbal commits.

    Good thing ya'll left the B12, I'd hate for OSU to have to beat down atm for a fifth year in a row with our lesser recruits.
    Does OSU have any commits at all?

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    You thought wrong.
    Then you should be less butthurt about UT.

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    Then you should be less butthurt about UT.
    I'm happy as can be

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    Sorry, but UT arrogance started all the realignment bull . But hey! I aint mad.......... it got UTSA in C-USA in record time. Thanks Bevo!!!!

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    Sorry, but UT arrogance started all the realignment bull . But hey! I aint mad.......... it got UTSA in C-USA in record time. Thanks Bevo!!!!
    Yeah, it was almost too easy for UTSA to reach its goal. Apparently they might have been able to get in the MWC too, but the watered down C-USA is probably more stable going forward.

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    Sorry, but A&M arrogance started all the realignment bull . But hey! I aint mad.......... it got UTSA in C-USA in record time. Thanks Reveille!!!!
    fify

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    Nebraska, Colorado, and Missouri left because of A&M?

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    Nebraska, Colorado, and Missouri left because of A&M?
    yes

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    Very interesting

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    Nebraska, Colorado, and Missouri left because of A&M?
    maybe not. The first push might have come from Larry Scotts original invitation to the big
    12 where insecurity started setting in

    But I do know why A&M left.

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