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    Spurs don't intentionally foul much... that should reduce the calls a bit...

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    Does nobody here remember 06 and the mavs? Venti's gonna be laughing at all you haters come sunday
    Pop's going to sit Splitter and Diaw for the series?

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    with the fakers out of the equation, now they will label the championsihp with asterisk...

    wouldnt be asterisk if they were the one winning it....

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    Artest deserved the flagrant he shoved with his other hand wtf u idiots watching or is it smoking
    Yeah, it was actually a clean block to start with. He got the flagrant because he followed through with his other arm and shoved the guy hard out of bounds.

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    Pop's going to sit Splitter and Diaw for the series?
    He might if OKC goes with Durant at the 4 a lot....

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    He might if OKC goes with Durant at the 4 a lot....
    That would mean using the same lineup that killed LAC, Parker-Manu-Green-Kawhi-Duncan.. Not a problem at all, IMO.

    But I don't see OKC doing that for long periods because it would mean either Ibaka or Perkins out, which means Duncan will absolutely abuse them and Parker will drive into open lane and can get some easy layups.

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    A Laker fan complaining about bad officiating? A Laker fan writing about referees helping other team team to win a playoff series?. Is this a joke, right?

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    That said, the Artest flagrant was a bad call, but Artest has only himself to blame for the reputation and calls.
    what a bullcrap

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    Stern badly wants the smallest market in the NBA finals, as opposed to the biggest market.

    That's why Bryant shot 51 FTs (To Durant 33).
    The Lakers shot 233 FTs (to OKC 219, incidentally #1 team in FTs attempts in the regular season).
    And that's why the big physical Lakers committed 188 fouls to OKC 210.

    It's outrageous.

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    another laker fan here, i got your back venti. only reason why lakers shot more free throws and okc committed more fouls is because they had to make up for all the moving screens that got durant, harden and westbrook wide open for their shots, proven by this video.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtSVipBctE

    perkins should've fouled out in the 2nd quarter. i guarantee pop is gonna get fined for complaining about this as soon as they lose their 1st game.

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    How much flopping did the Clips do against the Spurs. Next to none. Why? Because Pop prepares his team for this. And another thing, I guarantee Pop will have Diaw or such push Perkins into this own guy if Perkins keeps on moving and hooking the defender with his arm.

    Thanks for the vid, I am sure the Spurs staff will see this and send it to the league's office if someone hasn't already.
    yes, i'm hoping they do. if anyone would do it, i know pop will. spurs are definitely the better team and okc's only chance to win is if they let perkins get away with murder like that.

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    Evans was doing the exact same thing and Diaw or Duncan was just body Evans up and hedging the pick while the defender went underneath and got back infront of their guy.

    Look at Gasol and Bynum, most of the time they didn't even run up to set the hedge off the pick. Spurs players do. Spurs didn't have two double digit wins against OKC for nothing both without Manu, Sjax, or Diaw.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas..._boxscore.html

    And if your thinking can the Spurs beat OKC with their Big 3 going off, look now further than the Spurs OKC last meeting minus Splitter (injured), Manu, SJax, and Diaw.
    like i said, i expect the spurs to win the series. i'm just agreeing with venti that you might see the same officiating. it doesn't matter if pau or drew didn't hedge, a moving pick is a moving pick. even if the spurs find a way to stop their pick and roll, i'm sure it'll be frustrating to watch perkins moving on all his picks and not called for a foul.

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    another laker fan here, i got your back venti. only reason why lakers shot more free throws and okc committed more fouls is because they had to make up for all the moving screens that got durant, harden and westbrook wide open for their shots, proven by this video.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtSVipBctE

    perkins should've fouled out in the 2nd quarter. i guarantee pop is gonna get fined for complaining about this as soon as they lose their 1st game.
    1) Link to Popovich complaining to the media about officiating. He deals these things at another level.

    2) Bynum and Gasolio camping in the paint for up to 6 seconds in at least 2 possessions of G4.
    3 seconds? Honestly, I stopped counting in second quarters.

    Oh, and I hate to quote gallinari, but "Calls? What calls? You hardly get any calls against the Lakers. That's the way it is and everybodu knows that."

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    1) Link to Popovich complaining to the media about officiating. He deals these things at another level.

    2) Bynum and Gasolio camping in the paint for up to 6 seconds in at least 2 possessions of G4.
    3 seconds? Honestly, I stopped counting in second quarters.

    Oh, and I hate to quote gallinari, but "Calls? What calls? You hardly get any calls against the Lakers. That's the way it is and everybodu knows that."
    i don't understand why you guys are getting so defensive, i'm obviously on your side. but now i'm gonna love coming back here to say "i told you so" when the officials screw the spurs in favor of the thunder.

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    Laker fan complaining about refs? That's ing rich.

    Artest definitely threw him down with his left hand. I don't know what game you guys were watching. Artest should have been called for about 4 flagrants in game 5 alone. What game were you guys watching?

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    Pop is the best coach ever at not letting his players focus on bad calls and instead keeping their focus on the game. The rest us will complain like for them.

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    Lakerfan lives in another world where their team only wins when the officiating is hugely in their favor, and anything other is "getting screwed". The Spurs know the secret to winning is to play well enough that the officiating can't hurt them.

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    if you guys honestly think that officiating has nothing to do with the outcome of games, then you guys are blind. i just ran some numbers and i'm sure you guys would be surprised to hear this. in the 4 championships that the spurs have, they attempted 141 more free throws than their opponents in all 4 finals. in the last 4 championships of the lakers, they've attempted 44 more free throws than their opponents in the finals. the lakers attempted a whopping 12 more free throws than the spurs.

    i really am pulling for the spurs but you guys will definitely hear back from me when you guys get screwed by officiating and all the complaints come.

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    Luckily for us, the Spurs never worry about the officiating. In fact, they have never even complained about a call, especially Tim Duncan.



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    Wait. Didn't the Lakers get 42 FTA's on Friday night?
    Exactly

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    The Spurs know the secret to winning is to play well enough that the officiating can't hurt them.
    This.

    Pop's categorical refusal to even entertain blaming the refs is one of the biggest strengths of the franchise over the years. Worrying about getting screwed over is not a winning mindset -- breaking down tape on how fouls are getting called in different games until you can figure out how not to rack up fouls in any given game... that's a winning mindset.

    The flipside was Phil, of course, but I think his strategy was to go to bat for his guys so that he could tell them to just concentrate on the game instead. Obviously it worked for him.

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    if you guys honestly think that officiating has nothing to do with the outcome of games, then you guys are blind. i just ran some numbers and i'm sure you guys would be surprised to hear this. in the 4 championships that the spurs have, they attempted 141 more free throws than their opponents in all 4 finals. in the last 4 championships of the lakers, they've attempted 44 more free throws than their opponents in the finals. the lakers attempted a whopping 12 more free throws than the spurs.

    i really am pulling for the spurs but you guys will definitely hear back from me when you guys get screwed by officiating and all the complaints come.
    Obviously the game is decided by the Refs. No doubt in my mind.
    That's actually why you want to be a referee in the first place.
    That is EXACTLY my point.
    Popovich plays it at ANOTHER level.
    Do you know of ANY other small market team that has won not 4, but ONE championship in the Stern era?
    The reason is mainly Gregg Popovich. Never complaining with the media (what for?), but with the right people, and pulling the right strings.

    LAL doesn't need a Popovich, it's just LA, pure and simple.
    And their fans are so used to biased officiating that very mild pro-lakers refs will ring a bell.

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    i don't understand why you guys are getting so defensive, i'm obviously on your side. but now i'm gonna love coming back here to say "i told you so" when the officials screw the spurs in favor of the thunder.
    NBA basketball is, first and foremost, a business.
    Could please tell us Why on earth the Refs and the NBA would want to have the team of the smallest NBA market to reach the Finals at all cost???
    Business-wise, it makes zero sense.

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    if you guys honestly think that officiating has nothing to do with the outcome of games, then you guys are blind. i just ran some numbers and i'm sure you guys would be surprised to hear this. in the 4 championships that the spurs have, they attempted 141 more free throws than their opponents in all 4 finals. in the last 4 championships of the lakers, they've attempted 44 more free throws than their opponents in the finals. the lakers attempted a whopping 12 more free throws than the spurs.

    i really am pulling for the spurs but you guys will definitely hear back from me when you guys get screwed by officiating and all the complaints come.
    Teams that are aggressive and get to the line win more? You don't say! Great info. Thank you! Must be part of the game or something.

    By the way, what does that have to do with " officiating"?

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