Several George Zimmerman witnesses change their accounts

[elbamba]

by the way, the judge wants to hear more about the money before listening to the argument.

care to take a 1000 guesses on what he spent the 54K on?

At this stage, no. I am falling into what you do by talking out of my ass without facts to back it up. Truth is the only thing I know about this account is what I read in two articles. Neither article mentioned that 54K was spent. One did mention that he spent 5K on bail.

The judge wants to hear more about it because the prosecutor asked for the bail to be increased. Notice she did not ask to her amend her pleading to include a perjury charge. FYI Martin's family attorney wants the perjury charge and he wants Zimmerman back in jail.

[Goran Dragic]

you didn't have a big sword purchase?

[clambake]

At this stage, no. I am falling into what you do by talking out of my ass without facts to back it up. Truth is the only thing I know about this account is what I read in two articles. Neither article mentioned that 54K was spent. One did mention that he spent 5K on bail.

The judge wants to hear more about it because the prosecutor asked for the bail to be increased. Notice she did not ask to her amend her pleading to include a perjury charge. FYI Martin's family attorney wants the perjury charge and he wants Zimmerman back in jail.

you still think its 150K. it is now. cuz he spent 54K.

[elbamba]

Why did he call the police?

My best guess is that there had been a series of break ins and he was calling the police to prevent another one.I suppose you could lable that profiling. Certainly nothing illegal about it and certainly no proof of racial profiling.

[ChumpDumper]

My best guess is that there had been a series of break ins and he was calling the police to prevent another one.I suppose you could lable that profiling. Certainly nothing illegal about it and certainly no proof of racial profiling.

What made him think that Martin was about to commit a break-in?

[Trill Clinton]

Ah, I'd have to find that again. It was characterized as living expenses.

how much is his daddy charging him to sleep on his couch? living expenses *chuckles*

[cantthinkofanything]

What made him think that Martin was about to commit a break-in?

hoodie

[ChumpDumper]

hoodie

Profile.

Thank you for your honesty.

[elbamba]

What made him think that Martin was about to commit a break-in?

His comments do not suggest that he thought Martin was about to commit a break-in, that is my guess.

[ChumpDumper]

His comments do not suggest that he thought Martin was about to commit a break-in, that is my guess.

So he called the police about Martin for no reason at all?

[Goran Dragic]

hoodie

I suspect that the % of black people wearing hoodies that commit crimes is higher than the % of white people wearing hoodies that commit violent crimes.

So was it just the fact he was wearing a hoodie? You seem to be justifying a different kind of profiling other than hoodie wearing.

[elbamba]

you still think its 150K. it is now. cuz he spent 54K.

Show me the evidence. The two articles I read do not support your claim. I am sure the defense will supply an accounting and that will take care of that.

Why do you think the prosecutor isn't charging perjury? You still have not answered even though I have responded to all of your questions.

[elbamba]

So he called the police about Martin for no reason at all?

Do you have access to Zimmerman statements that explain why he called the police?

[Goran Dragic]

Do you have access to Zimmerman statements that explain why he called the police?

Why do you think Zimmerman called the police?

[elbamba]

Why do you think Zimmerman called the police?

Asked and answered my friend.

[cantthinkofanything]

So was it just the fact he was wearing a hoodie? You seem to be justifying a different kind of profiling other than hoodie wearing.

I think it's not out of the question that Zimmerman followed Travon because he was black and wearing a hoodie. Maybe the hoodie didn't play a big part or maybe it did. From everything out so far, it seems that Travon was beating the out of Zimmerman and got shot. Maybe Travon feared for his life and confronted Zimmerman. But if he feared for his life, he had the option to run away. At the point Zimmerman feared for his life, running wasn't an option. Unfortunate chain of events but if things played out like that, justice (in terms of legal justice) would be Zimmerman being found not guilty.

[elbamba]

So he called the police about Martin for no reason at all?

Read the transcript. I believe Zimmerman told the dispatcher that he saw a suspect walking in the rain and looked su ious, like he was on drugs.

Perhaps Zimmerman saw Martin looking in through a window, we don't know. You do not and I do not. It is all blind speculation. The only story that will matter in this case is Zimmermans, unless there is a smoking gun. I think I hear an echo in here.

[Goran Dragic]

Asked and answered my friend.

Yeah, um...

My best guess is that there had been a series of break ins and he was calling the police to prevent another one.I suppose you could lable that profiling. Certainly nothing illegal about it and certainly no proof of racial profiling.

His comments do not suggest that he thought Martin was about to commit a break-in, that is my guess.

So was he calling because he suspected Martin was about to commit a break in or something else?

[ChumpDumper]

Do you have access to Zimmerman statements that explain why he called the police?

Ah, now is the time when the lawyer realizes he's painted himself in to a corner.

[pats self on back]

[Goran Dragic]

I think it's not out of the question that Zimmerman followed Travon because he was black and wearing a hoodie. Maybe the hoodie didn't play a big part or maybe it did.

So you're admitting there's a strong chance Zimmy was profiling.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, um...




So was he calling because he suspected Martin was about to commit a break in or something else?

Forget it. It's time for him to stonewall.

[Goran Dragic]

if I'm ever on trial for something I hope to god ElBamba isn't my defense attorney

[elbamba]

I think it's not out of the question that Zimmerman followed Travon because he was black and wearing a hoodie. Maybe the hoodie didn't play a big part or maybe it did. From everything out so far, it seems that Travon was beating the out of Zimmerman and got shot. Maybe Travon feared for his life and confronted Zimmerman. But if he feared for his life, he had the option to run away. At the point Zimmerman feared for his life, running wasn't an option. Unfortunate chain of events but if things played out like that, justice (in terms of legal justice) would be Zimmerman being found not guilty.

I think I can agree with just about everything that you say. However, the lawyer in me wants to argue every stage of the incident. And there are ligitimate arguments to every phase of the prosecutions case, including the alleged racial profiling and stalking so many posters on here believe happened.

[elbamba]

if I'm ever on trial for something I hope to god ElBamba isn't my defense attorney

You could not afford me so it doesn't matter.

[clambake]

Show me the evidence. The two articles I read do not support your claim. I am sure the defense will supply an accounting and that will take care of that.

just say you don't believe me and claim it was only 150K. just say that george didn't lie about having any money, even though he's pissed away 54K already, so i can bookmark it.

Why do you think the prosecutor isn't charging perjury? You still have not answered even though I have responded to all of your questions.

how do you know she won't? the judge said he wants more information about the money before hearing argument.

before hearing argument.