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    I'm pointing out what I see as a real trend and all you can do is troll and talk . I was right when I told y'all it would tank Monday, I was right months ago when I lol'ed the fuvk out if this idea if a "Facebook ipo," and I'm right now. First it was xanga, then MySpace, now Facebook. Social media comes and goes people won't be using Facebook forever that's a reasonable assumption. In my opinion Facebook has been gaining some negative perception for a while now and many I know have abandoned it already.

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    I'm pointing out what I see as a real trend
    If it's a real trend, surely there is more than two articles from a year ago referring to the same article also from a year ago.

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    I think with a sample size of 500+ Facebook acquaintances it's a valid sample size bro. Of the 4 people I talk to most, 2 have already quit and the other 2 have severely curbed their use. It's irrational to think that people will always be on Facebook.

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    And even if they did, the other kicker is that their revenues aren't high enough to garner a 100 billion valuation and the growth rate is irrational especially considering they saw a big disappointment last quarter.

    Facebook is a flop chump, you gonna argue with me on that? Me and dok called it this is what we study.

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    I think with a sample size of 500+ Facebook acquaintances it's a valid sample size bro. Of the 4 people I talk to most, 2 have already quit and the other 2 have severely curbed their use. It's irrational to think that people will always be on Facebook.


    What the kind of statistics did they teach you? You think your 500+ friends on Facebook (LOL @ that TBH) you have some kind of random and good sample size?

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    Facebook is a flop chump, you gonna argue with me on that? Me and dok called it this is what we study.
    I don't know I'd call Facebook a flop. A social network used by hundreds of millions of people around the world can't be called a flop.

    I would agree, however, it's not a lucrative business model. It's free to join and they make money off of ads no one clicks through.

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    http://seekingalpha.com/article/6034...growth-problem

    This is how you do an analysis on Facebook's user numbers. While it obviously can't keep growing forever, with population growth and the fact that its not even in China yet, there is certainly a lot of room for growth.

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    I don't know I'd call Facebook a flop. A social network used by hundreds of millions of people around the world can't be called a flop.

    I would agree, however, it's not a lucrative business model. It's free to join and they make money off of ads no one clicks through.
    4 billion in revenue is not a lucrative business model?!!

    Holy .

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    Facebook was overvalued at its IPO but that doesn't mean:

    1) Its not going to continue to make a load of money
    2) That is is just going to magically disappear for no reason.

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    http://seekingalpha.com/article/6034...growth-problem

    This is how you do an analysis on Facebook's user numbers. While it obviously can't keep growing forever, with population growth and the fact that its not even in China yet, there is certainly a lot of room for growth.
    It's not in china because their dictatorship doesn't and won't ever allow it. It's over valued because according to time value of money a company that makes 3.7 billion per isn't worth 100 billion

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    Sure, but being overvalued doesn't mean you're not still VERY valuable.

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    Even if FB can sustain and increase user growth, that doesn't guarantee that they'll be able to sustain revenue growth. Even with growth in their user base, FB still has two huge challenges that they're going to need to overcome.

    1. The mobile version of FB is presently ad free, which to FB means revenue free. As far as advertisers are concerned if you're using FB on a mobile device you may as well not be using FB at all. As smart phones and tablets continue to infiltrate the population, the percentage of FB users who choose to access FB via a mobile device will also increase. This presents FB with a dilemma. Add ads to the mobile version and risk pissing off users, or leave the mobile version ad free and live with a decreasing percentage of users that generate ad revenue.

    2. Not all FB users are created equal. For users to be valuable to advertisers, they have to have disposable income to buy products. Generally speaking, Americans have more disposable income than those in second & third world countries. But those second and third world countries are where FB's growth is concentrated. The number of users can go up, but that doesn't guarantee that the revenue per user they're getting now will stay the same. It will probably decrease.
    Last edited by coyotes_geek; 05-24-2012 at 10:57 PM.

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    ^keep speaking truth just ignore chump dumper when he disagrees with you and spreads lies and misinformation

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    Number one is not true since simply by interacting through facebook you are giving the advertisers information which in and of itself is extremely valuable.

    Number two is no different than other forms of ad driven revenue. Disposable income is increasing greatly in those countries as well. You have to remember that FB advertising is so targeted that its not like India users are seeing adds for American products.

    In any event, I'm not arguing that they're worth the IPO valuation but I do think they are a very valuable company that is not going to simply die in 5 years.

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    In any event, I'm not arguing that they're worth the IPO valuation but I do think they are a very valuable company that is not going to simply die in 5 years.
    valuable at the moment? sure. going to be around in 5 years? maybe, maybe not. what makes you so sure that the whole world is going to be on facebook for the rest of forever? a big part of a stocks value is it's ability to earn money into the foreseeable future. i'm not convinced that facebook will become a staple of human living from here on. people will get tired of it. people i know have already deleted theirs.

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    tbh Facebook ads are very dissapointing. Looks like they pretty much are using the same ad engine as AltaVista used. Seriously? 100 billion dollars and you have the tiest ad design in history?

    them greedy es. Facebook will be a distant memory in 5 years.

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    ^keep speaking truth just ignore chump dumper when he disagrees with you and spreads lies and misinformation
    And watch out for the drones!

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    ing troll drones at that!

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    fuk yo drone clown

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    Had m>s bothered to research anything more recent than one year ago he would see that FB membership in North America went up after it went down, then down, then up again. Net result? About the same membership as before the drop he reported.

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    how is staying the same over a 1 year period considered growth? and how is that translating to revenue growth? as far as i know their revenue growth wasn't all that impressive last quarter.

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    how is staying the same over a 1 year period considered growth? and how is that translating to revenue growth? as far as i know their revenue growth wasn't all that impressive last quarter.
    You can't read.

    lol as far as you know

    lol two friends

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    dude, why are you on here arguing with me about facebook valuation in the first place?
    I never did.

    lol you really can't read

    The drones got to you.

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    http://seekingalpha.com/article/6034...growth-problem

    This is how you do an analysis on Facebook's user numbers. While it obviously can't keep growing forever, with population growth and the fact that its not even in China yet, there is certainly a lot of room for growth.
    china already has its own version of networking sites like weibo....so does that mean weibo is worth billions like fb? if it floated...

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