Is kobe a top 15 player of all time?

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I think Kobe is easily in the top 15, and probably top 10, real talk.

Truth... no matter how I hate Kobe.

[baseline bum]

Most overrated player of all-time. Lol at passing up open shots to pad his assist totals. Don't know why people continue to knob slob this guy.

Not to mention just refusing to play defense after 4 fouls for fear of fouling out. I know Kobe threw that game 7 in Phoenix, but I'd still take him over Wilt in a second. It blew my mind to read a Lakers team that kept getting edged out by the Celtics wanted no part of him being on the team in 65. Could you imagine Tim Duncan and David Robinson ever telling Pop not to trade for Kobe?

[DPG21920]

Russell and Shaq both over Kobe.

[Venti Quattro]

I rank Kobe higher than Shaq because of how well-do ented he coasted during regular seasons. And because honestly, homer bias aside, I think Kobe has earned it.

[DPG21920]

I think Kobe is easily in the top 15, and probably top 10, real talk.

That's what i said but I'm doing a shtick

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top 10 definitely

anyone who says otherwise is ing stupid

he has his flaws, but despite them, his abilities and accomplishments are more than enough to have him top 10

[Blake]

5 championships
2 Finals MVPs
1 MVP
9 NBA All-Defense teams
14 All-NBA team mentions
10 All-NBA first teams
14 All-Star appearances
4 All-Star Game MVPs
16 years (and counting) in the league

Name me 10 players who have that kind of resume.

lol one MVP

[DPG21920]

I rank Kobe higher than Shaq because of how well-do ented he coasted during regular seasons. And because honestly, homer bias aside, I think Kobe has earned it.

By quitting, chucking, throwing teammates under the bus, failing to lead and under achieving with a stacked team?

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Russell and Shaq both over Kobe.

dumbass

[Reck]

I rank Kobe higher than Shaq because of how well-do ented he coasted during regular seasons. And because honestly, I think Kobe has earned it.

How has he earned it? After Shaq left LA Kobe and the Lakers struggled mightily.

Shaq is ahead of Kobe because of what he brings. Kobe always needed that push.

[DPG21920]

top 10 definitely

anyone who says otherwise is ing stupid

he has his flaws, but despite them, his abilities and accomplishments are more than enough to have him top 10

No. There are certainly arguments to have him in the 12-15 range.

[Venti Quattro]

By quitting, chucking, throwing teammates under the bus, failing to lead and under achieving with a stacked team?

Two rings, three finals appearances. How often do you see that happen in a diluted, watered down 30-franchise league? The Spurs can't even obtain back to back Finals appearances.

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No. There are certainly arguments to have him in the 12-15 range.

ranking bill russell ahead of him is not an argument to have him in the 12-15 range

[DPG21920]

dumbass

your opinion is not credible.

[midnightpulp]

Not to mention just refusing to play defense after 4 fouls for fear of fouling out. I know Kobe threw that game 7 in Phoenix, but I'd still take him over Wilt in a second. It blew my mind to read a Lakers team that kept getting edged out by the Celtics wanted no part of him being on the team in 65. Could you imagine Tim Duncan and David Robinson ever telling Pop not to trade for Kobe?

Rofl. Scared to foul out because he wouldn't be able to stay in the game to pad his stats.

[Venti Quattro]

Rofl. Scared to foul out because he wouldn't be able to stay in the game to pad his stats.

Also, Barry

Damn that guy was the ultimate NBA .

Refusing to shoot because his teammates did not stand up for him

[baseline bum]

Rofl. Scared to foul out because he wouldn't be able to stay in the game to pad his stats.

It wasn't that. It was important to him that he retire having never fouled out of a game. What a stupid record to place above winning les.

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Two rings, three finals appearances. How often do you see that happen in a diluted, watered down 30-franchise league? The Spurs can't even obtain back to back Finals appearances.

im trying to figure out why people think his team was so stacked this year...

gasol is clearly not what he was 2-3 years ago

bynum is a ing pussy, even though he has the ability to be a top 2 center in the league

after those two guys, how are the lakers so stacked? Sessions is a solid player, but nothing amazing. Steve Blake? World Peace? Matt Barnes?

The team is incredibly mediocre to after Kobe, Gasol, and Bynum. Not to mention Kobe himself is on the downside of his career too. Take Kobe from 3 years ago, plug him into this exact team, and the Lakers gets past the Thunder.

[Venti Quattro]

How has he earned it? After Shaq left LA Kobe and the Lakers struggled mightily.

That's why he earned it exactly, buddy. He struggled and then regained championship form again.

Shaq is ahead of Kobe because of what he brings. Kobe always needed that push.

I know what Shaq brings and what he could have brought if he didn't coast and milk injuries.

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You know what's gonna be hard is when more NBA greats come in the future... Who's gonna get thrown out of the top 10.

[DPG21920]

Stretch with the "I'll say Bill Russell was overrated because that means I'm smart" attack

[baseline bum]

You know what's gonna be hard is when more NBA greats come in the future... Who's gonna get thrown out of the top 10.

I'll throw Wilt out for sure if LeBron can ring 2 or 3 times.

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your opinion is not credible.

yours is even less by the fact that you view Russell as > Kobe and on the same plateau as Shaq

[Venti Quattro]

It wasn't that. It was important to him that he retire having never fouled out of a game. What a stupid record to place above winning les.

The Lakers even rejected trading for him in 1965.

That was Wilt ing Chamberlain that they were trading for, and the players voted not to bring him in.

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Stretch with the "I'll say Bill Russell was overrated because that means I'm smart" attack

DPG with the "I'll say Bill Russell is top 12 even though I don't know what the I'm talking about" bads