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Ya - let's post that question and see who's considered silly.
Are you kidding with this post? You can't have it both ways - Kobe and his bigs getting accolades then saying they suck. Team had flaws but this is a weak nba and every team had flaws, major ones. Underperforming does not equal sucking aka Heat in the finals last year.
Ya - let's post that question and see who's considered silly.
The player I hate to not have in the top 10 is Isiah. Yeah, his stats may not look mind-blowing, but damn he was a monster player.
If your attack on me is centered around you hating on Russell there's no point in talking.
After Gasol came in, of course he regained championship form. That's not exactly earning it.That's why he earned it exactly, buddy.He struggled and then regained championship form again.
I know what Shaq brings and what he could have brought if he didn't coast and milk injuries.
The Stilt simply didn't make his team better. Bill Russell was an infinitely better team basketball player, which is why most fans have him higher than Wilt on their all-time lists.The Lakers even rejected trading for him in 1965.
That was Wilt ing Chamberlain that they were trading for, and the players voted not to bring him in.
It's ridiculous how he spent an inordinate amount of time with stats and not with actually winning the game. For all his worldly talents, I am still boggled until now as to why he was so scared of the moment.
He had the stats, all he had to do was just to make them count. But no, he could not achieve that transition.
still asshurt over the 2011 finals
apparently good players can't have flaws that heavily plague them in playoff basketball, nor can players fade when they get older and lose their physical advantages they previously had. all players can play in the NBA till they are 100.
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Stretch with just an absolutely terrible argument. Saying things I didn't even say
cool story broStretch with just an absolutely terrible argument. Saying things I didn't even say
That makes zero sense. Tim gets penalized for his late years, all do. LA was flawed but name a contender that is not heavily flawed? If your a functioning top 10 player of all time & you have 2 top 5 bigs in a watered down league there are no excuses not to be a contender. None. They weren't injured. They under performed largely in part to Kobe's flaws that have existed his entire career; nothing to do with his age.
apparently good players can't have flaws that heavily plague them in playoff basketball, nor can players fade when they get older and lose their physical advantages they previously had. all players can play in the NBA till they are 100.
You keep acting like I'm hating on Kobe. He's a phenomenal player and I have him in the 12-15 range of all time. It's not a ridiculous statement. What's ridiculous is trying to knock Russell to prop up Kobe.
I'm not upset about last year either. Did MIA not under achieve? They clearly didn't play anywhere near the level they could have. My point is even do dominant players can under perform.
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Kobe is top 20 at best, if you take into account his ty leadership, chucking, raping, blatantly ripping of jordan's game, coattaling shaq to 3 les. Then coattaling the most dominant frontline in the nba to another 2 les. When kobe doesn't have a better player(s) to coattail, he's busy getting bounced in first rounds and missing playoffs completelly, tbqh.
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Kobe is great, but Stretches of the world that say "top 10 easily!!!" are silly IMO.
11-15 is insanely difficult for me to pick. I don't have any idea how I'd choose the top 5 from Isiah, Oscar, Baylor, West, Nowitzki, Barkley, Garnett, Pippen, Havlicek, Erving, Moses Malone, Wade, and LeBron.
Holy that's hard. Any one of them could be ranked in the top 11-15 and we would be perfectly okay with it.
That group: isiah, Oscar, Kobe, dirk, lebron
he's second tier... but definitely top 15... top-10, not so sure, tbh
Russell was a glorified Ben Wallace TBH
Gasol is a top 5 PF/C?
Bynum SHOULD be a top 5 PF/C, but he showed he doesn't have what it takes to be a true #1 option in these playoffs. Dude is a pussy when he needs to step up and be the man. Instead, he cried like a got, refused to pass the ball when doubled, and when he actually would, half the time he would just throw a turnover.
I agree that to an extent, the Lakers underachieved, but lets not kid ourselves... OKC had a LOT of fortune go their way to win that series. It could have easily been LA up 3-1, as opposed to down 3-1. They didn't just get dominated by any means. Plus, OKC is a very good team.
I've always felt Russell is massively overrated, not just knocking him for the sake of propping up Kobe. You know why? Because he is, for the same reasons Wilt is overrated. They were players that were way ahead of their time. They dominated in a league where no one could remotely physically match up to them, much like high school "phenoms" can dominate, because they are way ahead of the compe ion. But put them among players who actually can physically match up with them, and 50 ppg suddenly isn't quite as feasible.
So Bynum and Gasol can't underperform?
as much as I love Dirk and Lebron, no way in they belong 1 and 2 spots behind Kobe.
why is that such a crime? yeah, its obvious he is obsessed with MJ, but you could say that most any player "rips" past players games. You could say Duncan rips McHale and Hakeem's games, as he used a lot of the same moves they used. Or that Magic ripped Jerry West, Pistol Pete, and Oscar with his fancy play and versatility.
Silly topic Wade is balling LeBron is being clutch and u guys wasting energy on a topic not even relevant to whats going on these playoffs. Kobe is a nonstory until October. Let's give Durant, Duncan, Parker and Westbrook their chance to shine. And get Kobe off your minds .. jeez.
Great points but u wasting time with the insecure Duncan worshippers ...
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