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What would be really scary would be the chemistry. Just what LA needs -- another whiny-ass punk.
He and Bynum could form the "Kobe was mean to me and took all my shots" club.
A very much photoshopped white chick.
What would be really scary would be the chemistry. Just what LA needs -- another whiny-ass punk.
He and Bynum could form the "Kobe was mean to me and took all my shots" club.
lol photoshop
I'd still smash tho
Lowry wanted to be the starter in Memphis, but Hollins wanted to go with Conley which is one of the reasons he was traded. Now granted the situations are different than in Houston because neither Conley nor Lowry were worthy of a starting job at the time.
But I do think it's funny how Lowry thinks he's better than he really is. I mean, Lowry as a foundation guy?
1 week is longer than I expected to get caught. I'll have more goods later
lol photoshop
Yet, Dragic is a terrible defender and "led" the Rockets to a losing record and well out of the playoff picture. Lowry is more clutch too. Dragic isn't better. Also, doing well for a small period of time doesn't mean he can legitimately do the same thing for a long period of time. Need I point you towards Jeremy Lin for proof of this? Good short stretch (against terrible teams), then totally choked and blew after that.
LOL bad comparison.
Lin got the Knicks out of the pit that is the east and catapulted them into the playoffs. Kind of hard to keep playing when you're injured and not playing.
Also, Goran Dragic its still developing, if you're going to build around a guy it should be Goran. Kyle Lowry has peaked to his potential, Goran in the other hand can still better his game.
Lowry clutch.
Um, Lowry's defense has fallen off quite a bit even before the injury, and he started flopping more and more. Dragic is actually a very capable defender, and was a big reason the Rockets stayed in the hunt for the playoffs. There was just no reliable backup PG behind Dragic, meaning Dragic had to carry the team game in and game out, which he did for remainder of the season but eventually took its toll on him. Lowry has reached his peak, Goran is still developing, and doesn't throw his teammates or coaches under the bus.
1) Dragic is a terrible defender
2) They went from March 7th on (when Lowry went down). During the stretch when Lowry was injured and Dragic was the point guard, they went 9-6, so idk where the "losing record" part comes in. I'm not sure what Dragic is supposed lead that mediocre roster to either.
3)
Dragic and Lowry are both not guys you can "build around" really.
Kidd K was obviously talking out of his ass.
I bet he didn't watch a single Rockets game.
dragic is an above average defender imho
One of them apparently thinks he IS the guy you can build around.
Not a bad comparison at all. When "Lin" had his little run, 9 of the 12 teams the Knicks played during that span were under .500. most of which were under .400. of the 3 teams that weren't under .500, one of them was a massively injured and stumbling Hawks team. Another was an at the time struggling Mavs team.LOL bad comparison.
Lin got the Knicks out of the pit that is the east and catapulted them into the playoffs. Kind of hard to keep playing when you're injured and not playing.
Also, Goran Dragic its still developing, if you're going to build around a guy it should be Goran. Kyle Lowry has peaked to his potential, Goran in the other hand can still better his game.
Lowry clutch.
So nearly that entire run was against garbage ass teams. I argued with people on other forums about Lin, saying that I guarantee he won't be good as soon as the Knicks start to play good teams (FYI, the Knicks had the weakest strength of schedule a very large amount of the season). I even guaranteed he'd suck as soon as they started to play legit teams. What happened? Lin's FG% dropped to around 30%, his turnovers were high as , and he wasn't even getting many assists either. He was terrible as soon as they started playing real teams. Not a bunch of soft teams.
During that atrociously annoying "Linsanity" crap, these are the opponents the Knicks played and their records at the time, in order:
vs Nets (8-17)
vs Jazz (13-10)
@ Wizards (5-21)
vs Lakers (15-12)
@ Wolves (13-15)
@ Raptors (9-21)
vs Kings (10-19)
vs Hornets (7-23)
vs Dallas (20-12)
vs Nets (10-24)
vs Hawks (19-14, but no Horford or Johnson playing)
So not only did they barely play any road games, but any ones they did were against garbage ass teams. Their "great win" over LA was against them when they were struggling at 15-12, not rolling late in the season. The Hawks were severely hurt and playing very shorthanded. The Mavs win was the only one that was impressive at all.
If you take out the Hawks and Mavs games (I'm calling the Mavs win legit, so I'm not ignoring it), the collevtive record of the remaining teams they played in that stretch of time was a pathetic 90-162. A combined win% of just .357%.
I'm supposed to be impressed with that? They played garbage teams. I could go even further and post their terrible defensive ratings too, but I don't think I need to.
Immediately after that, the Knicks started to play good teams. Heat, Cavs, Celtics, Mavs, Spurs, Bucks, 76ers, Bulls. During that stretch, they were 1-7 with their one win being against the garbage Cavs.
Lin wasn't willing the Knicks to victory. They were just playing weak ass teams with a win % of .357%. They're supposed to beat those weakling teams that are tanking for draft picks.
Also, hilariously, the game against the Heat, Lin's first game against a real team during "Linsanity", Jeremy Lin set an NBA record for only player in history to take over 10 shots, shoot under 10% from the field, and turn the ball over 8+ times and have less than half as many assists as his turnovers. In other words, candidate for worst game in NBA history.
So don't tell me that's not a good comparison. Lin was only good against scrub teams, and choked against legit teams. Dragic closed the season 2-7 to lose the Rocket's playoff spot they had nearly all season. Rockets were under .500 with Dragic starting (13-15), including the late season chokejob of 2-7, meanwhile were above .500 when he didn't.
As for your last comment, how is Dragic "still developing" and Lowry isn't? They're the same age, only 2 months apart.
Last edited by Kidd K; 05-26-2012 at 08:27 PM.
k.1) Dragic is a terrible defender
2) They went from March 7th on (when Lowry went down). During the stretch when Lowry was injured and Dragic was the point guard, they went 9-6, so idk where the "losing record" part comes in. I'm not sure what Dragic is supposed lead that mediocre roster to either.
3)
Kyle Lowry defensive rating: 104 points per 100 possessions.
Dragic defensive rating: 106 points per 100 possessions.
Rockets gave up less points with Lowry on the floor and more with Dragic.
Rockets' record with Dragic starting is under .500. Look at his stats.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../gamelog/2012/
Rockets are clearly 13-15 with Dragic starting. They were 21-17 when he didn't start.
Losing record comes in because you aren't including their chokejob 2-7 close to the season when Dragic was still starting and getting full minutes. You're confused because you're cherry picking a small stretch of games and stopped counting as soon as he starts going on a losing streak.
I just posted a bunch of stats about it. So maybe you can stop being a dip and actually look stuff up before YOU start talking out of YOUR ass.
I don't care if you read it. You were wrong to begin with and by posting that all you do is prove you're too much of a failure to win an argument against me.
Their defensive RAPM was similar this season, I don't see much of a difference in their defense, nor in their overall impact..
They're interchangeable IMO, both quality starting PGs..however, Dragic seemingly has a better at ude and seems less high-maintenance, while Lowry's at ude could eventually become a locker room problem, tbh..
I'd keep Dragic, but they're about equal IMO..
Must be since you keep desperately attempting to save face by posting internet meme pics.
rofl
I'm just having fun at the expense of you.
Comparing Lin's good stretch to Dragic good stretch are not comparable, 2, saying Dragic is a terrible defender and then saying Lowry its a much better player overall, 3, saying fattie Lowry is clutch, 4, Lowry not being able to at least give Rockets hope.
You're so full of lols its not even worth the trouble argueing with your dumbass self.
You're having fun at the expense of yourself, because your two ty arguments got destroyed with facts and statistics.
Your irrelevant opinion about Lowry's conditioning doesn't change the reality of the situation either. I posted facts proving my point. You've just posted your lame opinion and a couple of meme pics.
No facts and baseless opinions = worthless. You're just pissing in the wind at this point.
Keep telling yourself that.
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