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    rofl this Kidd K stick is quickly becoming the new GNSF bottom

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    I've been hoping the Hornets can sign Dragic this offseason to pair him next to Gordon and focus on the front court in the draft. Can't believe some dumbass Hornet fans want to trade the 10th pick for fatass Lowry.

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    Three scenarios likely for Lowry

    1. Lowry moved for a top 10 draft pick
    2. Lowry to LA in a deal for Gasol along with Martin or Scola
    3. Lowry to Orlando as part of a deal for Dwight

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    Only the Lakers deal seems plausible the other one's really are a bit of stretch; Lowry isn't worth that much.

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    Lowry is not fetching a top 10 pick IMO.

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    The Rockets had to acquire Dragic because they made a mistake. Now it's time to erase that mistake. They're cashing you out, Kyle.

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    Only the Lakers deal seems plausible the other one's really are a bit of stretch; Lowry isn't worth that much.
    He isn't, however teams overpay all the time, you just have to find the right teams to bait. Maybe trade Kyle and one of our picks to move up .Not trading both picks to move up.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    I was reading different forums and alot of Toronto fans seem to want him for their pick. Hoping their FO would do it. But at some point, Morey has to go. Les has also crippled this franchise by constantly refusing to tank.
    Last edited by djohn2oo8; 05-27-2012 at 11:23 AM.

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    I was reading different forums and alot of Toronto fans seem to want him for their pick. Hoping their FO would do it. But at some point, Morey has to go. Les has also crippled this franchise by constantly refusing to tank.
    Seriously? You want to dump you GM for trying to win?

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    Seriously? You want to dump you GM for trying to win?
    lol, I want him gone b/c of his insistent use of statistical analysis that has gotten us a team full of role players. That's Les' fault too, however, Morey overvalues his trade assets and ends up holding on to players too long, driving down value. I really feel like this FO is really arrogant to have not accomplished anything. We need a direction, and so far there isn't one. He should be gone for THAT.

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    lol, I want him gone b/c of his insistent use of statistical analysis that has gotten us a team full of role players. That's Les' fault too, however, Morey overvalues his trade assets and ends up holding on to players too long, driving down value. I really feel like this FO is really arrogant to have not accomplished anything. We need a direction, and so far there isn't one. He should be gone for THAT.
    Agreed. It's Morey's fault that his two superstars were injured and his owner won't let him tank like he wanted to. The Rockets aren't an old team either. Morey needs to stop drafting good players in the second round and late first, so the Rockets can suck better.

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    I have to agree with Djohn. The Rockets have been a perennial 9th seed. They're trying to win constantly, but its getting them no where. Luckily for the Hornets, Stern intervened in the Paul/Gasol trade, but the Rockets need to dump Scola's contract and start over with a new group.

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    Rockets might have had a better record with Lowry starting, but I think that has more to do with the fact that Dragic (and Lee) were the first subs off the bench. Once Dragic was starting, the backup was Earl mother in Boykins, and Kevin Martin got hurt before Lowry and never came back. Our depth was non-existent once he started and because of that the entire team was getting worn down towards the end.

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    lol, I want him gone b/c of his insistent use of statistical analysis that has gotten us a team full of role players. That's Les' fault too, however, Morey overvalues his trade assets and ends up holding on to players too long, driving down value. I really feel like this FO is really arrogant to have not accomplished anything. We need a direction, and so far there isn't one. He should be gone for THAT.
    Morey was brought in to better the team around Yao and McGrady. He did an amazing job doing that. Unfortunately Yao and T-Mac were always hurt. Now Les Alexander is demanding that we rebuild on the fly and find a way to get better without getting worse first. No team has ever rebuilt without having a losing record, and for some reason Les thinks we can be the first. He has Morey's nuts in a vice grip.

    I don't think over values his assets, he's just smart enough to no take on bloated contracts for sub-par "stars." He knows that most of the guys with max contracts are not worth it. He reportedly was very close to getting Deron before Utah shipped him to NJ to keep him out of conference. He pushed hard for Melo, and if you believe the story on clutchfans we had a deal agreed upon to get Dwight a couple hours before he waived his ETO. Morey knows you need a legit max player to win a championship, and he doesn't want to away his assets to get guys like Joe Johnson and Rashard Lewis.
    Last edited by Kai; 05-27-2012 at 12:33 PM.

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    Agreed. It's Morey's fault that his two superstars were injured and his owner won't let him tank like he wanted to. The Rockets aren't an old team either. Morey needs to stop drafting good players in the second round and late first, so the Rockets can suck better.
    How many are superstars?

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    How many are superstars?
    None. Morey can do a great job at filling in a team around stars. I would love to tank as much as you, but Les wont have it. All we can do is hope and pray that we finally snag the star that we were told would come.

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    Morey was brought in to better the team around Yao and McGrady. He did an amazing job doing that. Unfortunately Yao and T-Mac were always hurt. Now Les Alexander is demanding that we rebuild on the fly and find a way to get better without getting worse first. No team has ever rebuilt without having a losing record, and for some reason Les thinks we can be the first. He has Morey's nuts in a vice grip.

    I don't think over values his assets, he's just smart enough to no take on bloated contracts for sub-par "stars." He knows that most of the guys with max contracts are not worth it. He reportedly was very close to getting Deron before Utah shipped him to NJ to keep him out of conference. He pushed hard for Melo, and if you believe the story on clutchfans we had a deal agreed upon to get Dwight a couple hours before he waived his ETO. Morey knows you need a legit max player to win a championship, and he doesn't want to away his assets to get guys like Joe Johnson and Rashard Lewis.
    "Almost" does not win rings. That's the problem with this franchise, what good is missing the playoffs year after year if you're not going to get a high pick? Yeah Les is at fault for his no tank policy, but this has to do with the fans too. When there is no pressure to win, then mediocrity is accepted and we get to this predicament. That results from hearing the same thing each year, "we ALMOST made a big trade", or "We're going to be predatory" come the trade deadline. A majority of this is on Les, however the players Morey drafts in the first round so far can't even get on the floor.

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    Last point. It's becoming a trend of acquiring players that aren't mentally tough and don't know how to keep their mouths shut in public.

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    Rockets might have had a better record with Lowry starting, but I think that has more to do with the fact that Dragic (and Lee) were the first subs off the bench. Once Dragic was starting, the backup was Earl mother in Boykins, and Kevin Martin got hurt before Lowry and never came back. Our depth was non-existent once he started and because of that the entire team was getting worn down towards the end.
    Courtney Lee just sucks to begin with

    He had a good rookie season in Orlando but he's not an NBA caliber SG.

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    "Almost" does not win rings. That's the problem with this franchise, what good is missing the playoffs year after year if you're not going to get a high pick? Yeah Les is at fault for his no tank policy, but this has to do with the fans too. When there is no pressure to win, then mediocrity is accepted and we get to this predicament. That results from hearing the same thing each year, "we ALMOST made a big trade", or "We're going to be predatory" come the trade deadline. A majority of this is on Les, however the players Morey drafts in the first round so far can't even get on the floor.
    I agree that the Rockets situation sucks ass. We're on the mediocrity treadmill.

    Morey first rounders don't see the floor? He has drafted Aaron Brooks, Nicolas Batum (parlayed into Ron Artest), Patrick Patterson, Marcus Morris, and Donatas Motiejunas. Morris is the only one you can point to, and a lot of that has to do with how well Parsons turned out. He's going into his second year, the jury is clearly still out.

    Last point. It's becoming a trend of acquiring players that aren't mentally tough and don't know how to keep their mouths shut in public.
    That's the NBA.

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    Courtney Lee just sucks to begin with

    He had a good rookie season in Orlando but he's not an NBA caliber SG.
    beats having Trevor Ariza for 3 times the price

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    beats having Trevor Ariza for 3 times the price


    Djohn you're still an amateur peezocker.

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    lol Scolarules
    lol "Playing Yao 20 minutes a game will be a really successful strategy!"

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    beats having Trevor Ariza for 3 times the price
    At least they know how to tank. N.O. will have found a franchise player, have a winning record and have won a round in the playoffs before the Rockets get off the mediocrity treadmill.

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    This smoker thinks Yao should come back to be a bench player

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