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  1. #51
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    This Spurfan never said we got screwed in that series. I said there was 3 calls that stuck out. I also said bad calls happen and some make you scratch your head. That's it.

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    They forgot to mention the 2001 Eastern Conference Finals, where the Bucks got royally screwed over. Although I hate quoting Simmons, here goes:

    To briefly recap, Philly's wins in Games 1 and 4 swung on a controversial lane violation and two egregious no-calls. The Sixers finished with advantages of 186-120 in free throws, 12-3 in technicals and 5-0 in flagrant fouls. Glenn Robinson, one of Milwaukee's top-two scorers, didn't even attempt a free throw until Game 5.

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    The defining game: When Philly stole a must-win Game 4 in Milwaukee despite an atrocious performance from Iverson (10-for-32 shooting), helped by a 2-to-1 free-throw advantage and a host of late calls. How one-sided was it? When an official called a harmless touch foul to send Sam Cassell to the line with two seconds left and the Bucks trailing by seven (maybe the all-time we-need-to-pad-the-free-throw-stats-so-they-don't-seem-so-lopsided-afterward call), the subsequent sarcastic standing ovation nearly morphed into the first-ever sarcastic riot.
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...3fid%3d4746227

  3. #53
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    They forgot to mention the 2001 Eastern Conference Finals, where the Bucks got royally screwed over. Although I hate quoting Simmons, here goes:



    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...3fid%3d4746227
    I've pointed this series out many times as the most underrated screw job ever. The Bucks should've been the ones to get massacred by us in 01.

  4. #54
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    It's so juvenile and naive to use total FTs or fouls called to claim the game was called evenly and fairly.

    Situational foul calls can have different weights. FTs are the same way. Putting Dirk to the line isn't the same as putting Duncan to the line. Not the refs' fault Duncan doesn't shoot FTs that well, but they are well aware of it. The teams play based on the existing score, and late in games, if a ref has called more shooting fouls for one team, they could easily use a few shooting fouls the other way to alter a score. They could also call these fouls against players who already are in foul trouble, causing changes to who's on the floor (see Chauncey Billups in game 7 of the 2005 Finals).

    It's constantly mentioned about the NBA. Where there's smoke there's fire, and the NBA refs have too much final say with no way of challenging their call. Fisher's 3 should have been ruled a 3 tonight regardless when it was realized. You cannot just say "that's how the game goes" and take a point from the team. That point can change how the team runs a play on the next possession.

    It should be as accurate as possible always, not just in the final 2 minutes.

    Out of bounds possession calls are so wishy washy, I think they up half of them or more. There's a huge area for skewing scores. It might not even show up in the stats if it was a long rebound.

    I also don't like how lower level players never get calls because the refs never give them the benefit of the doubt, as if the truth has to be earned.

  5. #55
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    I've pointed this series out many times as the most underrated screw job ever. The Bucks should've been the ones to get massacred by us in 01.
    That Bucks team did sweep you guys in the regular season that year, though... just sayin'.

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    It's so juvenile and naive to use total FTs or fouls called to claim the game was called evenly and fairly.

    Situational foul calls can have different weights. FTs are the same way. Putting Dirk to the line isn't the same as putting Duncan to the line. Not the refs' fault Duncan doesn't shoot FTs that well, but they are well aware of it. The teams play based on the existing score, and late in games, if a ref has called more shooting fouls for one team, they could easily use a few shooting fouls the other way to alter a score. They could also call these fouls against players who already are in foul trouble, causing changes to who's on the floor (see Chauncey Billups in game 7 of the 2005 Finals).

    It's constantly mentioned about the NBA. Where there's smoke there's fire, and the NBA refs have too much final say with no way of challenging their call. Fisher's 3 should have been ruled a 3 tonight regardless when it was realized. You cannot just say "that's how the game goes" and take a point from the team. That point can change how the team runs a play on the next possession.

    It should be as accurate as possible always, not just in the final 2 minutes.

    Out of bounds possession calls are so wishy washy, I think they up half of them or more. There's a huge area for skewing scores. It might not even show up in the stats if it was a long rebound.

    I also don't like how lower level players never get calls because the refs never give them the benefit of the doubt, as if the truth has to be earned.
    cool

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    Jordan pushing Russell doesn't bother me that much. It's a judgement call and even though Jordan did push off, there's no way in a ref should call that. What bothers me about game 6 was the refs not allowing Eisley's 3 pointer and allowing Harper's jumper. Eisley's shot left his hand before the 24 second clock went off and Harper's was still in his hand after the 24 second clock expired. That's a 5 point swing the refs ed up. If they get both those calls right, the push off doesn't even happen.

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    ^That Eisley 3 was a pretty horrible call and obviously a game changer

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    You're right -- there shouldn't have been a game 7. There shouldn't even have been a Game 6. But the Kings blew a 20 point lead and failed to rebound with two hands in Game 4.
    There should be a Game 6. The Lakers were better in Game 4. The Kings choked in that one. I should say, the Lakers seized that one.

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    lol ambchang's gorilla fetish
    isn't ambwang the one who denies hakeem's greatness over big ty?
    Never realized I made so many people butthurt.

    My apologies for continuously exposing your respective ignorance and bad takes.

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    A lot of Spurs fans were pissed at the officiating in that series, while Mav fans laughed at the whole whining about the refs thing.

    Sometimes karma's a .
    Mavs: 28, 43, 50, 32, 19, 20, 31 = 223
    Spurs: 30, 37, 32, 32, 31, 34, 39 = 235

    Mavs: 26, 28, 26, 27, 25, 23 = 155
    Heat: 19, 32, 34, 36, 49, 37 = 207

    Yep, same screw job...
    I watched the Spurs-Mavs series back in 06 but I never went back to actually check the stats on Ft's by both teams. Now that I see this it kind of pisses me off After all of these years of Spurs fans ing about being "Robbed" and the Mavs getting screwed in the Finals the same way they got screwed in the WCF it turns out they actually had the FT advantage in the series

    Yo I'm sorry but some Spur fans are ing pathetic. Even in the most crucial games of the series (6 and 7) San Antonio held a 34-20 and 39-31 FT advantage, respectively. From now on I'm losing respect for any Spur fan who es about being screwed over in that series again. And don't tell me some bull about " but Dirk stepped on Duncan's foot and they called a foul on Duncan!! " No STFU with that . The refs more than made up for that call by calling fouls on Diop and Dampier any time they tried to play D on Duncan. pathetic ass spur fan ing about being screwed over when they shot more ing freethrows

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    Never realized I made so many people butthurt.

    My apologies for continuously exposing your respective ignorance and bad takes.
    you're all butthurt

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    @ Dallas getting 50 FTAs in one game

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    jump shooting team getting to line 50 times in one game
    more free throw attempts than even miami got in a game

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    LOL @ Mavs fans ing about a series that happened six years ago...a series that the Mavs won.

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    LOL @ Mavs fans ing about a series that happened six years ago...a series that the Mavs won.
    Maybe want to read the thread again?

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    Mavs won fair and square imho just crazy that they had a game in which they shot more free throws than Miami did at their highest

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    Maybe want to read the thread again?
    I know the thread has posts that refer to several different series, and one of them is the 2006 series between the Mavs and Spurs. Your point?

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    I know the thread has posts that refer to several different series, and one of them is the 2006 series between the Mavs and Spurs. Your point?
    That the Spurs fans were ing about the 2006 WCF Series...

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    That the Spurs fans were ing about the 2006 WCF Series...
    Karma's a , ain't it???




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    Yeah, Karma... Because the Mavs got favoured against the Spurs, totally right!

  22. #72
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    But that's what you get with Bleacher Reporter
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    jump shooting team getting to line 50 times in one game
    Well, Dirk and Devin Harris accounted for 34 of those 50 free throws. SA couldn't guard Dirk at all in that series and was basically trying something different with him every game, so him getting to the line that much isn't too much of a surprise. Devin Harris getting to the line 11 times isn't much of a surprise either given how mediocre his jumper was in 2006 when all he did on offense was drive.

  24. #74
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    Jordan pushing Russell doesn't bother me that much. It's a judgement call and even though Jordan did push off, there's no way in a ref should call that. What bothers me about game 6 was the refs not allowing Eisley's 3 pointer and allowing Harper's jumper. Eisley's shot left his hand before the 24 second clock went off and Harper's was still in his hand after the 24 second clock expired. That's a 5 point swing the refs ed up. If they get both those calls right, the push off doesn't even happen.

    Jordan did push off. The whole world saw it. It should have been called. End of in' story.

    A foul is a foul no matter who commits it---except in the NBA.

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    Well, Dirk and Devin Harris accounted for 34 of those 50 free throws. SA couldn't guard Dirk at all in that series and was basically trying something different with him every game, so him getting to the line that much isn't too much of a surprise. Devin Harris getting to the line 11 times isn't much of a surprise either given how mediocre his jumper was in 2006 when all he did on offense was drive.
    not to mention Josh Howard was more than capable of driving and Stackhouse wasn't quite a corpse yet so he could take it to the rim as well.

    Spurfans acting like the Mavs would shoot a jumper and then magically a foul was called

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