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    Originally Posted by PPopper Blake

    I've claimed that his ” choking” in the past has been overblown.

    His past playoff choking is pretty damn obvious. Not sure how it can be overblown.

    In the playoffs? Obviously, yes. But he was a known choker already to anyone paying attention. Shouldn't be surprising when he misses (or doesn't shoot) a wide open three-pointer in pressure situations.
    timvp as far back as 2010 or so correctly i.d.'d Bonner as official playoff choker.
    timvp waited until the sample size was large enough and utilized stats.
    It's only grown since then.

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    I bet you would have also allowed Bonner to slam your girl while you watched.

    in' amazing.

    Those are Timvp's playoff grades, not mine.

    Your butthurt has muddled your reading ability.

    Par for the course, per the usual.

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    Someone on the Spurs staff ed up when they told Bonner he had to improve his game by developing a dribble/drive move option.

    Any time he dribbles the ball more than once Pop should remove him from the game.

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    It was a hard game to watch. It did seem like Pop, Tim, and everyone else was going away from the things that got them here. When the game got away from us in the 2nd quarter, Pop just kept with the Bonner, Splitter, Neil lineup for too long. A loss was bound to happen eventually I guess, but we looked disengaged. I don't believe Thabo is capable of stopping TP for the rest of the series and Tiago will continue to not shoot over people half his size. Perhaps Pop needed this film to coach them appropriately for game 4. They made their adjustments and now we need to make ours. We certainly didn't during the game. More importantly, as you said, is to match their desperation. Game 4 should be a scorcher! Thanks for the grades and observations man!

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    Those are Timvp's playoff grades, not mine.

    Your butthurt has muddled your reading ability.

    Par for the course, per the usual.
    Still defending Pop's use of Bonner.

    Amazing.

    Where a reasonable person would see something is happening (Bonner choking) Blake refuses to see or admit.

    Where a reasonable man would realize his girl was getting slammed on the side after finding her sexting another guy...Blake just denied it and rationalized he was "staying" for his kid. Par for the course.

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    Sorry but Pop deserves a lower grade, he freaked out, changed things too much and didn't allow for his usual rotation to figure things out.

    What's the explination behind going with Manu on Durant and Tony on Sefolosha for so long?
    Why did he have a small-ball line-up with Ibaka and Perkins out there for the Thunder?
    Why go with Anderson instead of showing a little more confidence on the guys that got you here?
    Why wait 8 minutes and beign 20 pts down to get one of your stars back in the game in the 3rd? Specially when Bonner (who sucked mightly in the first half) was already there 2 minutes earlier.

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    His past playoff choking is pretty damn obvious. Not sure how it can be overblown.
    I didn't say you specifically have overblown his choking.

    I do think it's a favorite pastime for Spur fan to blame Bonner for losses and still beat on him after a win. Considering his skill set, the hate and blame gets overblown many times.

    In the playoffs? Obviously, yes. But he was a known choker already to anyone paying attention. Shouldn't be surprising when he misses (or doesn't shoot) a wide open three-pointer in pressure situations.
    He has sucked from 3 point range this playoff season, yet you've given him numerous B grades.

    He had the third most minutes played last night. Does he deserve that kind of floor time or not? Your B and C grades so far would suggest he does.

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    Still defending Pop's use of Bonner.

    Amazing.
    Where exactly have I done that? It hasn't been in this thread.

    Where a reasonable person would see something is happening (Bonner choking) Blake refuses to see or admit.

    Where a reasonable man would realize his girl was getting slammed on the side after finding her sexting another guy...Blake just denied it and rationalized he was "staying" for his kid. Par for the course.
    why are you lying about my personal life?

    Is it because you are getting slammed in another thread?

    I think it is. You're an idiot, lol.

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    Where exactly have I done that? It hasn't been in this thread.



    why are you lying about my personal life?

    Is it because you are getting slammed in another thread?

    I think it is. You're an idiot, lol.
    bammm struck that nerve again...I am so glad you are my friend or I might feel bad about this...

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    Sorry but Pop deserves a lower grade, he freaked out, changed things too much and didn't allow for his usual rotation to figure things out.

    What's the explination behind going with Manu on Durant and Tony on Sefolosha for so long?
    Why did he have a small-ball line-up with Ibaka and Perkins out there for the Thunder?
    Why go with Anderson instead of showing a little more confidence on the guys that got you here?
    Why wait 8 minutes and beign 20 pts down to get one of your stars back in the game in the 3rd? Specially when Bonner (who sucked mightly in the first half) was already there 2 minutes earlier.
    Please, Pop didn't freak out at all. The team came out with no energy and no "appropriate fear" so Pop sent them the message. When he first stuck with Bonner I thought maybe Pop is going to tank the game to send a message. When he continued to stick with Bonner after he passed an open 3, drove and tried a goofy spin move hook resulting in the ball bouncing off the side of the back board I thought yep pretty sure he's going to tank the game. The second Anderson set foot on the court I turned off the game instead of wasting my time.

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    He has sucked from 3 point range this playoff season, yet you've given him numerous B grades.
    We've already covered this. I knew Bonner was a playoff choker coming into the playoffs so even when Bonner chokes, he's still living up to his expectations.

    Again: The grades are based on expectations. Bonner choking is expected.

    He had the third most minutes played last night. Does he deserve that kind of floor time or not?
    Unless one values choking, I don't think it's deserved. In theory, last night's game needed floor spacing. Bonner in the regular season provides that. In the playoffs? Not nearly as much ... especially once teams figure out he's scared.

    Your B and C grades so far would suggest he does.
    The B and C grades suggest Bonner as a given choker has played about as well as expected.

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    Please, Pop didn't freak out at all. The team came out with no energy and no "appropriate fear" so Pop sent them the message. When he first stuck with Bonner I thought maybe Pop is going to tank the game to send a message. When he continued to stick with Bonner after he passed an open 3, drove and tried a goofy spin move hook resulting in the ball bouncing off the side of the back board I thought yep pretty sure he's going to tank the game. The second Anderson set foot on the court I turned off the game instead of wasting my time.
    If he tanked like you're suggesting then he deserves the lower grade possible.

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    Tim deserves an F- honestly. 2 rebounds in 26 minutes is just a pathetic effort.

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    lol timvp grading meltdown

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    The B and C grades suggest Bonner as a given choker has played about as well as expected.
    With you having Bonner going 4 for 10 from B to start the playoffs, I just wanted to make sure this strange grading system was what it appeared to be.

    Thanks for clarifying.

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    I never thought I would want more of the Hamburgler, but if they're gonna switch every pick and roll he seems like the bench guy whose most capable of skull ing Fisher and Harden down low. Watching Bonner is getting awkward at this point, he's just taking a and smearing it all over himself and that's what we're calling a "stretch 4."

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    I just wanted to make sure this strange grading system was what it appeared to be.

    Thanks for clarifying.
    No problem. After explaining it for the 20th time to you, perhaps it'll sink in this time.

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    Blake has taken cucking to a whole new level in this thread. Impressive work, Blake.

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    Watching Bonner is getting awkward at this point
    Getting awkward??? Exactly which Matt Bonner have you been watching these past few years? The boy's been Frankenstein in high tops since he got here.

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    No problem. After explaining it for the 20th time to you, perhaps it'll sink in this time.
    Tbh, this is the first time you've explained to me how Bonner is choking yet still has had 4 above average games, 6 average games in the first ten.

    Next time I see you give him a B grade, I'll remember that he got that grade while playing with his hands around his neck.

    Thanks again for the clarification.

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    Blake has taken cucking to a whole new level in this thread. Impressive work, Blake.
    TJastal is unaware of his surroundings and is blindly following other forum losers.


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    Sorry but Pop deserves a lower grade, he freaked out, changed things too much and didn't allow for his usual rotation to figure things out.

    What's the explination behind going with Manu on Durant and Tony on Sefolosha for so long?
    Why did he have a small-ball line-up with Ibaka and Perkins out there for the Thunder?
    Why go with Anderson instead of showing a little more confidence on the guys that got you here?
    Why wait 8 minutes and beign 20 pts down to get one of your stars back in the game in the 3rd? Specially when Bonner (who sucked mightly in the first half) was already there 2 minutes earlier.
    The bolded line was especially distressing for me. I started to have 2006 flash backs.

    On a different note, Bonner played 11 minutes in game 1, 17 in game 2, and 23 last night. Last night it seemed he was on the floor for more critical stretches than the previous two games.

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    The bolded line was especially distressing for me. I started to have 2006 flash backs.

    On a different note, Bonner played 11 minutes in game 1, 17 in game 2, and 23 last night. Last night it seemed he was on the floor for more critical stretches than the previous two games.

    11 win
    17 win
    23 loss

    Yeah when he is the 1st big off the bench, as he has been it's 2006-2011 Loserville scary.

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    The bolded line was especially distressing for me. I started to have 2006 flash backs.

    On a different note, Bonner played 11 minutes in game 1, 17 in game 2, and 23 last night. Last night it seemed he was on the floor for more critical stretches than the previous two games.
    Disturbing trend. Should be heading just the opposite way.

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    Blake has taken cucking to a whole new level in this thread. Impressive work, Blake.


    Never knew there were "levels" of Cucking....that's pretty sad.

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