Pointing out that Splitter didn't take advantage of the Thunder switching pick-and-rolls is "beating"?This. I'm not sure what ing game you were watching, LJ. Nice that you use it as an excuse to beat on Splitter for the ing loss.
Then again, you claim the Spurs didn't run a pick-and-roll last night so you probably have no idea what I'm complaining about.
The problem with that is if Westbrook is defending Manu, Manu isn't a good enough ballhandler to bring it up against his ball-pressure.
Neal and Ginobili are going to have to share the ballhandling duties against this team. It won't be pretty but they'll be able to get the job done.
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i would move jackson into the starting lineup and demote green to the bench. that way, if the thunder want to sic sefolosha on parker, westbrook will either have to guard leonard or jackson, both who can easily shoot over him.
green coming off the bench might wake him up and that gives the spurs another decent ball handler for a weird combo of neal/ginobili/green at point. plus, green would be able to defend harden when he checks into the game.
i would still give tiago another chance before subs uting him for blair. splitter played well the first two games and sitting him after one poor performance doesn't make sense yet.
I love Neal as a shooter, I don't like him as a backup PG. It seems that is when the Spurs are slow to get into their offense and slow to get back on defense.
If the Thunder reserves continue pressuring Neal and Manu, then perhaps Pop may want to consider inserting Mills for a few spot minutes?
We don't have a chance in Game 4 according to Tim Legler so we might as well start talking about how we're gonna win Game 5.
https://twitter.com/LegsESPN/status/208408027915747328@Najo_A I actually don't. OKC will win game 4 also. OKC is great at home. Whoever wins the west is winning it all.
Unpopular opinion forthcoming: The closer I look at that play, I think it may have actually been a foul on Splitter. TNT should have shown more than this one angle but it's an offensive foul if you dislodge a player's armbar. It's difficult to tell from this angle but it looks like Splitter's swipe with his off-arm dislodged it.
It's not a call you see much when it's big vs. big but it's technically the right call. And really it's even more reason why Splitter went about posting up Fisher all wrong. If he catches the ball that far out, the right play is to pass it back out, fight for lower position and then go straight into a shot. If you post up a point guard 12 feet away from the basket, you're going to be called for an offensive foul 75% of the time.
Duncan's offensive has been mediocre at best and mostly terrible this series (and the entire year against OKC as well), but I don't think the Spurs can just abandon any pretense of frontline scoring in the paint.
Everyone's eyes saw the same thing. It might be time to give Blair some run when OKC has two non-scorers in there, when his defensive liabilities would be minimized.
At this point, I would rather have Splitter roaming for 3's and "spacing the floor" than Firecrotch.
Splitter was posting up on a mismatch. There was no pick, no roll, and no foul, yet you prominently feature him as a reason they lost. lol as usual.
I have no idea what you're complaining about because you're complaining about Splitter again. Perhaps you could make some cute little comment about how injury prone he is too, but he got three whistles blown on him for nothing and was taken completely out of the game.
That's a FIBA rule, not an NBA rule. Fish is allowed to put a hand on Splitter to maintain defensive position, but you can clearly see that he's using his leg to impede Splitter's progress. If you're going to call ticky tack in that situation, the whistle goes against Fisher.
Unpopular opinion forthcoming: The closer I look at that play, I think it may have actually been a foul on Splitter. TNT should have shown more than this one angle but it's an offensive foul if you dislodge a player's armbar. It's difficult to tell from this angle but it looks like Splitter's swipe with his off-arm dislodged it.
It's not a call you see much when it's big vs. big but it's technically the right call. And really it's even more reason why Splitter went about posting up Fisher all wrong. If he catches the ball that far out, the right play is to pass it back out, fight for lower position and then go straight into a shot. If you post up a point guard 12 feet away from the basket, you're going to be called for an offensive foul 75% of the time.
Before Splitter "dislodges" Fisher's armbar it's clear Fisher puts his off hand on him, not once but twice. This is against the rules (more than 1 point of contact) but the referee chose to ignore this rule apparently.
Unpopular opinion forthcoming: The closer I look at that play, I think it may have actually been a foul on Splitter. TNT should have shown more than this one angle but it's an offensive foul if you dislodge a player's armbar. It's difficult to tell from this angle but it looks like Splitter's swipe with his off-arm dislodged it.
It's not a call you see much when it's big vs. big but it's technically the right call. And really it's even more reason why Splitter went about posting up Fisher all wrong. If he catches the ball that far out, the right play is to pass it back out, fight for lower position and then go straight into a shot. If you post up a point guard 12 feet away from the basket, you're going to be called for an offensive foul 75% of the time.
All that said, Splitter didn't deserve to take advantage of that matchup because he waited so long. He acted like he was waiting for a double team. When he got the ball last night and had Fish on him I was yelling "GO GO GO" and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
How do the spurs attack when they switch the pnr on manu?
I think manu should take ibaka, even with his length, there's no way he should be able to stay in front of manu
They should run manu iso and make them pay
Have you lost your mind? As underwhelming as he's been in the playoffs, outside of finishing off of pick-and-rolls, he's still their fourth best player and only other legit big man besides Duncan.
Even if your plan would be to have Blair come in for Diaw early and have Diaw play backup center, in either scenario the Spurs would essentially be rolling out the welcome mat for a team that lives at the line to begin with. Their big three's eyes will light up with no legitimate size to contend with at the rim. Even Brooks will figure out what needs to be done in short order . . . I think.
Yes there was. There was a pick-and-roll that the Thunder switched that left Fisher on Splitter.
You've repeatedly said the Spurs weren't running pick-and-rolls last night even though they ran about 50 by my count. That's less than the 80 they ran in Game 1 but still a healthy amount.
lol prominently feature
Splitter is just one of many Spurs who I said deserved some blame.
I pointed out that Splitter wasn't scoring against midgets when the Thunder switched pick-and-rolls. That's a fact. If Splitter scores once or twice, the Thunder probably switch out of that gimmick defense. If you don't think Pop is pointing out to Splitter that he needs to score when he's defended by point guards, I don't know what to tell you.
And even though a center not being able to score on a point guard is a big deal, I've said in this thread that I don't want Pop to change anything in Game 4. How mean.
The ? Now I'm a Splitter hater?
I was as high as anyone on Splitter during the regular season and other than Game 1 against the Clippers, I've been pretty damn happy with his playoff performances. The last three games I've said I thought he was awesome.
Ah, you're mad because I pointed out Splitter has a history of being injury prone. Now I see where this is all coming from.
I don't know if it's a FIBA rule but I know it's an NBA rule. The problem is we can't clearly see anything at this angle. It looks like Splitter may have committed an offensive foul based on his arm disappearing but I can't say for sure. Maybe another angle shows Fisher using his leg but, again, can't see on this angle.
Fishnutts clearly picks up his left foot and jams his left knee forward into Splitter. Initiating contact and impeding Splitters movement.
Easy foul call on Fisher.
If Duncan's gonna be as lazy as he was on offense last night come game 4, the team may as well forfeit, tbh. Not to mention the lazy passes and seeming unawareness of what was happening around him on the court.
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