I agree you have to have a way to beat the shotblockers. Too bad we don't have guys who can dunk on Ibaka.
This is starting to get ridiculous. OKC has gotten away with at least 1 goaltend per game and its almost always Ibaka. I could understand the 1st maybe even the 2nd given his reputation for blocks, but we are up to 4-5 at this point. That is poor officiating to say the least.
Obviously its not the difference in the game, but its plays into a players head if they know they are going to get screwed every time they try a layup.
Again not blaming the officiating for the Spurs losing, but seriously for "professionals" they've done little to address it.
I agree you have to have a way to beat the shotblockers. Too bad we don't have guys who can dunk on Ibaka.
The goal tend hasn't made a difference at all in the series. SA and OKC won their games convincingly without the question of a dubious call. So why should now be different?
Huge blocks could affect on next few posessions played, so yeah, that`s matter.
Goaltending needs to be added to the list of things that can be checked on instant replay, along with foot position in the restricted zone on charge calls. The number of goaltends that have been missed is a bit disconcerting, and some of them have been very obvious. I believe Stern has said he wants to get rid of goaltending all together, so I don't see any positive changes on the horizon.
So because they haven't "made a difference" it doesn't matter when they're not called?Come on now. Fouls are one thing. There's probably a foul on the majority of NBA plays, especially in the playoffs. It's the ref's discretion on which warrant a call. Goaltends DON'T fit into that category and when 5 (on my count) are missed, that's something to look at. It's something to look at even more so when blocks are a vital part of a player's game, as they are with Ibaka.
When those blocks take away points, and result in fast break buckets to kill potential momentum, it does make a difference.
Game 3, Ibaka got away with TWO goaltends at the end of the 3rd when it would've been cut to a 9 point game had they each been called. Instead, no call + fast break = 17 point game instead.
Tonight, same . Goaltend + fast break = 4 point swing. Game was close as and those kinds of calls (and there was a lot OKC got away with) destroys any chances of coming back or winning. OKC never lost momentum at any point due to the whistle in either of the last two games. The whistle has worked against SA, destroying their momentum at least half a dozen times.
Calls make a huge difference, even when they're non calls on obvious violations. Nothing's more depressing than getting fouled or goaltended, not getting the call, then refs calling a bogus ticky tack foul on the other end for FTAs, then calling a charge call on the other end when the Thunder player was moving AND in the circle to not only cause a turnover but take away your basket too. What is more deflating that that?
Refs take away your ability to win the game when they do that. Even though on paper is just 2 FTAs (or even 0), the refs are still taking away 4-6 points and giving possessions to the other team. It kills the game.
Tbh, I can't see how anybody can enjoy watching OKC when they're clearly winning fixed games.
Though I agree with your Olivia Wilde stance, I have to respectfully disagree with you on the goaltending calls. I'm not saying it drastically changes the boxscore or even the outcome of the game. But in a game where you whittle the lead down to 4 points, suddenly those 2 you didn't get off a goal-tend become pretty important. Especially if the opposing team goes down on the other end and scores off the "blocked" shot.
Those are momentum shifts, and they play into the overall flow of the game. Furthermore as a player, when you know your getting hosed night in and night out, its going to change how you operate, so suddenly your hesitant to layup the ball and end up with some fallaway shot.
It comes to the point where, in regards to the goaltends, the Spurs have put the onus on the officials (like your suppose to do) and they have failed to respond.
It is pretty nice. But Spurs are going for 4.
My team lost fair and square. In each of the 4 losses I accepted it though, rather than whine like a petulant child about the officiating.![]()
goaltending was a factor no doubt
I'm not whining about officiating. I'm saying they missed calls and it should probably be looked at. Didn't cause the loss. What you are doing is trying to get a rise out of another team's fans. Usually that's fine but you're a Lakers fan. So out of instinct we all hate you. Plus your team only got 1 win![]()
Home cooking is par for the course. Refs just get caught up in the energy of the home crowd. Let's just hope its our turn for that Monday.
I agree that the momentum impact matters but fixed is a bit much. We just need better effort and execution and this game was there for the taking. Poor team rebounding -10 have to do better there.
I just realized your UN is Spanish for Bryant's jersey number.
How very absent minded of me.
This, my buddy and I were commenting, Diaw is good, but sure would be nice if we had a big man that would slam it.
Yes it is getting a bit ridiculous...I only seen 1 tonight, but I didn't watch all of the game do to Poor Officiating...But I seen 3 last game and that is no bull
okc amnestied ibaka's goaltending.
we should use ours on manu's turnovers.
spurs shouldnt put themselves in position to be goal tended. i prefer non calls over BS calls anyday.
Momentum
And how so? Any NBA center can alter the course of a shot when it's going downward. It's just ridiculous.
Why should we? We want that to disappear from Earth.
soft floaters over the center's head for one
3-4 of the missed calls were actually not floaters but shots that were altered after hitting the backboard.
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