lol Tony Parker

[FkLA]

How is being realistic about the type of teams Tony struggles against disgusting/hating?

[Brazil]

looking strictly at stats

His numbers against Memphis last year look respectable. But only an idiot would say he actually played well. Parker has struggled against big, physical teams theres plenty of proof in the past...off the top of my head and without looking into it deeper; Phil Jackson would neutralize him all the time in the playoffs, he struggled against Detroit in 05', you have the Memphis series last year, Chicago game this year, the LA&Memphis back to back this season, etc. His huge series' have usually been against less physical teams like the Suns or Cavs.

This game doesnt change any of that. have his share of solid games against these big, physical teams when his jumpshot is on. His jumpshot is too inconsistent to expect this on a nightly basis though. Id be more confident if Tony did most of his damage where hes most effective.

Im not saying he doesn't struggle a bit against that teams but this is one thing to say he struggles a bit and another to say he is disappearing. Against the lakers incl POs the last 5 years, he has 19 ppg, near 50% FG, 6 assists and 2 TOs... I'm sorry saying he disappears is laughable at best.

[Brazil]

How is being realistic about the type of teams Tony struggles against disgusting/hating?

because you are a well established TP hater... look at your sig dude...

usually your takes about TP are

[FkLA]

Im not saying he doesn't struggle a bit against that teams but this is one thing to say he struggles a bit and another to say he is disappearing. Against the lakers incl POs the last 5 years, he has 19 ppg, near 50% FG, 6 assists and 2 TOs... I'm sorry saying he disappears is laughable at best.

Ok, he doesnt flat out dissapear but he shrinks against these type of teams. The fact that hes usually always supposed to be the teams biggest advantage on paper (vs Fisher, vs Conley, etc) and ends up shrinking just makes it worse tbh.

because you are a well established TP hater... look at your sig dude...

usually your takes about TP are

I dont hate the guy Im just a big critic of his game. Im a critic of his jumpshot, I personally wouldnt rely on it to take us far. He needs to attack the paint in order for him and the team to be at their best...something he usually fails to do against big, physical teams.

[gilmor]

Tony was more aggressive tonight but the biggest reason he had a great game was because his jumpshot was money. I wont rest my hopes on Tony shooting that way on a consistent basis, wouldve liked to have seen him attack the Lakers bigs more. Also some of you are re ed cherry pickers...one game doesnt change the fact that hes had a tendency to disappear against these type of big, physical teams.

Hey bro, just give credit when it's due...

I know Manu is better than TP when he is not injured..

But Spurs is more than just TP and Manu..

this Manu vs TP is getting old..

[FkLA]

Hey bro, just give credit when it's due...

I know Manu is better than TP when he is not injured..

But Spurs is more than just TP and Manu..

this Manu vs TP is getting old..

Tony was ridiculous tonight.

[will_spurs]

Tony was ridiculous tonight.

So were you.

[FkLA]

So were you.

Nah. I was on point with my rebuttals but nowhere near Parkers level tbh.

[Mel_13]

Tony shrinking again...

[Bambililos]

He was lucky once again. Fluke points, flukes assists...

I hope he stays this lucky for the playoffs, tbh.

[Legacy]

Tony who...??

[mkurts]

What Manu's team ??

This is Duncan's team, after Robinson of course.

[will_spurs]

He was lucky once again. Fluke points, flukes assists...

I hope he stays this lucky for the playoffs, tbh.

Actually, he was lucky for the whole season. In fact, for his whole career. I mean, he's lucky, that's all. Lucky.

[FkLA]

Repeat of 04' and then you Parker nuthuggers wonder why spurfan is so hard on the in Frenchie. Hes supposed to be the best PG in the NBA and a Top 3 MVP candidate and yet a 34 yr old Manu has to carry the load because his balls shriveled up when the going got tough. And before any of you s call out TD to justify Parkers piss poor play, Duncan is old and is the reason why we have 4 championships so off. Parker being neutralized is the reason why the Spurs are in a 3-2 hole.

Just when I was starting to come around and thought this french got had evolved into a big time player too

[therealtruth]

Repeat of 04' and then you Parker nuthuggers wonder why spurfan is so hard on the in Frenchie. Hes supposed to be the best PG in the NBA and a Top 3 MVP candidate and yet a 34 yr old Manu has to carry the load because his balls shriveled up when the going got tough. And before any of you s call out TD to justify Parkers piss poor play, Duncan is old and is the reason why we have 4 championships so off. Parker being neutralized is the reason why the Spurs are in a 3-2 hole.

Just when I was starting to come around and thought this french got had evolved into a big time player too

He had to get bailed out by Manu. He's not ready to lead a team yet.

[TDMVPDPOY]

damn the brotherhood of the TP haters club is out strong and about, where were you clowns all these years when i was the only lone man on this board giving him and his fans ...

[FkLA]

He had to get bailed out by Manu. He's not ready to lead a team yet.

Manu tried his best to right the ship. Parker refused to follow suit though.

damn the brotherhood of the TP haters club is out strong and about, where were you clowns all these years when i was the only lone man on this board giving him and his fans ...

This thread is from earlier in the year brother, Ive probably been TPs biggest critic all year. And like what hes pulling off in this series is the reason why. If he doesnt grow some balls for Game 6 not even the biggest Parker nuthugger will be able to argue that he is by far the worst big game player out of the Big 3.

[G-Dawgg]

Tony Parker failed

[Spurs da champs]

Repeat of 04' and then you Parker nuthuggers wonder why spurfan is so hard on the in Frenchie. Hes supposed to be the best PG in the NBA and a Top 3 MVP candidate and yet a 34 yr old Manu has to carry the load because his balls shriveled up when the going got tough. And before any of you s call out TD to justify Parkers piss poor play, Duncan is old and is the reason why we have 4 championships so off. Parker being neutralized is the reason why the Spurs are in a 3-2 hole.

Just when I was starting to come around and thought this french got had evolved into a big time player too

Agreed....but Duncan still could of showed up in the 1st half.

[sehui]

its kind of a fact that tony isn't good against strong physical frontcourt teams. When you're a PG that thrives off finishing off the lane with decreasing speed because of age/fatigue and not super athletic, you're not going to play well.

Looks like I'm correct.

Never was on the church of tony, never will be.

Tony is only going to get worse as he gets older - he HAS to develop a consistent jumper. Not that hard, you're a professional NBA player. Work with Chip England some more.

[FkLA]

Looks like I'm correct.

Never was on the church of tony, never will be.

Tony is only going to get worse as he gets older - he HAS to develop a consistent jumper. Not that hard, you're a professional NBA player. Work with Chip England some more.

You were one of the few that shared the same opinion as me tbh. Its really simple--a PG that relies on scoring points in the paint to do most of his damage will find things tougher when he faces more physical opponents. The inconsistency of Tonys jumpshot has always made it easy for teams to neutralize him. Or atleast more easy than what it should be to neutralize the supposed best PG in the league.

[sehui]

You were one of the few that shared the same opinion as me tbh. Its really simple--a PG that relies on scoring points in the paint to do most of his damage will find things tougher when he faces more physical opponents. The inconsistency of Tonys jumpshot has always made it easy for teams to neutralize him. Or atleast more easy than what it should be to neutralize the supposed best PG in the league.

Cheers mate. Never was on the Church of Tony, never will be.

While I applaud his stellar play during the regular season, there was no way I was going to expect him to continue it in the post season. Playing with his french national team at the age of 29 wasn't going to make Tony an MVP caliber talent for life.

He was the playmaker for the Spurs incredible season, and our best and most consistent player during the reg season, therefore, the NBA media has to give Tony a "nod" for MVP talk.

[mingus]

It is all in Tony's head. That is what is so depressing. No one can guard him. His shooting stroke is fine. It's his lack confidence that is the problem. His swag is gone, and even if he somehow gets it back in game 6 I doubt it isn't too late.

[therealtruth]

It is all in Tony's head. That is what is so depressing. No one can guard him. His shooting stroke is fine. It's his lack confidence that is the problem. His swag is gone, and even if he somehow gets it back in game 6 I doubt it isn't too late.

Their playing him so much for the shot that he should be able to create more passing opportunities. There was a nice basket he created for Duncan late in the game due to him being aggressive. I think that's the key. He has to be aggressive and under control.

[therealtruth]

You were one of the few that shared the same opinion as me tbh. Its really simple--a PG that relies on scoring points in the paint to do most of his damage will find things tougher when he faces more physical opponents. The inconsistency of Tonys jumpshot has always made it easy for teams to neutralize him. Or atleast more easy than what it should be to neutralize the supposed best PG in the league.

Tony showed signs this season of advancing beyond that this season and continuing to be able to contribute even when he wasn't scoring. He averaged a career high assists per game. He outplayed Chris Paul last series. Westbrook < Chris Paul.