Parker fans who post in the NBA forum

[BlackSwordsMan]

How many people can go out there and perform the way he has after just getting divorced?

[tesseractive]

the ONLY part of Parker's game is penetration. If a perimeter player was a top 10 player, the other team wouldn't leave him wide open the way OKC does with Parker. His jumper isn't respected at all.

He doesn't have 3-point range, but his 18-footer has been a huge part of the team all year long. They certainly haven't been conceding that shot to him that I've seen.

Besides the spurs, 15 teams made this year's playoffs. How many of them have a guy who can't be taken away by a great defensive team?

Definitely:

Oklahoma City -- Durant
Miami -- LeBron
Dallas -- Dirk
LA Lakers -- Kobe looked like a chucker against OKC, but he wasn't erased

Maybe:

LA Clippers -- Chris Paul, I guess? The Spurs were able to limit him pretty well, but he was injured at the time
Chicago -- Rose? Didn't play due to injury, so he counts as an incomplete
Boston -- Rondo? He's been erased before when he can't hit his jumper, but Miami hasn't been able to do it yet this year

Not as far as I can see:

Memphis
Denver
Utah
Indiana
Atlanta
New York
Philadelphia
Orlando

Besides those 7 guys, who you have above Parker by virtue of their unstoppable playoff performances?

[Kobe_5_Duncan_4]

You know who you are. Get in here and explain to me how an "MVP candidate" is capable of choking as badly as Parker has. I want answers, gots. You sticks told me like he was a top 10 player this year () and implied he is capable of leading the Spurs to a le. I demand an explanation.

[Kobe_5_Duncan_4]

There are a few Parker fans who get pissy with me whenever I remind them of the fact Parker was outplayed by Mike Cnley over a year ago. I'm waiting for their opinion

And Goran Dragic the year before...

[jeebus]

[Goran Dragic]

Most of you Spurs fans disgust me. Giving in so easy to this thread? What would ShoogarBear think if he read this thread? Would he ever allow some Mav Fan to diss Parker like this? No, he would dismiss Mav Fan and them call for a No Limit Army Commander thread and a return of the bravatar. All while conveniently ignoring the NFL Forum except for that 3 week period where the Redskins don't completely lick taint. Show some backbone, people!

W.W.S.B.D.

this new shtick is hilarious

[Axe Murderer]

Most of you Spurs fans disgust me. Giving in so easy to this thread? What would ShoogarBear think if he read this thread? Would he ever allow some Mav Fan to diss Parker like this? No, he would dismiss Mav Fan and them call for a No Limit Army Commander thread and a return of the bravatar. All while conveniently ignoring the NFL Forum except for that 3 week period where the Redskins don't completely lick taint. Show some backbone, people!

W.W.S.B.D.

'ony Rand, with the showing flashes of his potential goods par per etc

[Reck]

There are only Parker fans when he's doing well. When he s the bed they tend to dissapear along with him.

[Goran Dragic]

He doesn't have 3-point range, but his 18-footer has been a huge part of the team all year long. They certainly haven't been conceding that shot to him that I've seen.

Besides the spurs, 15 teams made this year's playoffs. How many of them have a guy who can't be taken away by a great defensive team?

Definitely:

Oklahoma City -- Durant
Miami -- LeBron
Dallas -- Dirk
LA Lakers -- Kobe looked like a chucker against OKC, but he wasn't erased

Maybe:

LA Clippers -- Chris Paul, I guess? The Spurs were able to limit him pretty well, but he was injured at the time
Chicago -- Rose? Didn't play due to injury, so he counts as an incomplete
Boston -- Rondo? He's been erased before when he can't hit his jumper, but Miami hasn't been able to do it yet this year

Not as far as I can see:

Memphis
Denver
Utah
Indiana
Atlanta
New York
Philadelphia
Orlando

Besides those 7 guys, who you have above Parker by virtue of their unstoppable playoff performances?

You don't think Dwight Howard is better than Parker?

[Axe Murderer]

There are a few Parker fans who get pissy with me whenever I remind them of the fact Parker was outplayed by Mike Cnley over a year ago. I'm waiting for their opinion

Don't forget big ty getting outplayed by

Prkins
Ibk
and Cllisn

[tesseractive]

You don't think Dwight Howard is better than Parker?

Dwight Howard doesn't want the ball down the stretch and he quit on his team.

But let's say we add him to the list despite that -- that's 8 so far. Who are 9 and 10?

[Goran Dragic]

Dwight Howard doesn't want the ball down the stretch and he quit on his team.

it's a yes/no question. Do you seriously think Tony Parker is a better basketball player than Dwight Howard? Yes or no.

But let's say we add him to the list despite that -- that's 8 so far. Who are 9 and 10?

Carmelo Anthony
LaMarcus Aldridge
KG
Deron Williams
Dwyane Wade

Just to name a few. One shortened regular season that Parker overachieved in doesn't make him a top 10 player

[ElNono]

When you're playing against a guy known as "Westchuck", yet that guy is actually dropping more dimes than you, the viability of suicide shouldn't be ruled out.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Horse
complaining about Goran calling him a certain slur

[baseline bum]

fuk yo Mike Conley clown.

[Reck]

Goran Dragic banned.

[ElNono]

banned

[sonic21]

it's manu's fault imo.

[tesseractive]

it's a yes/no question. Do you seriously think Tony Parker is a better basketball player than Dwight Howard? Yes or no.

I think Howard is more talented without a doubt, but after the he pulled this year, I'm not sure he helps you win more. A guy who sabotaged a team that was built around him? In the immortal words of KD, "That's messed up."

But sure, let's suppose he turns it around next year, and actually starts benefiting his team again. He goes back up ahead of Parker. So we'll make him part of the top 8.

Carmelo Anthony
LaMarcus Aldridge
Deron Williams

What have they won? Parker led his team to a tie for the best record in the league and through the first two rounds of the playoffs without blinking.

Of those, Williams has the best case, because he led his team to the conference finals in 2007. But he hasn't been back, and he hasn't even made the playoffs since 2009. He's a terrific player, and his ceiling is higher, but I'm not ranking him higher until he shows what he can do with a winning team again. Feel free to laugh at me if you want, I can take it.

KG
Dwyane Wade

Both of those guys have been better in the past. KG is putting out a heroic effort out there, but like Duncan, I just don't think he's better any more. Rondo is the guy there, just like Parker is the guy for the Spurs.

Wade isn't having to carry the load on his team, LeBron is. And he hasn't looked right this year -- he's looked a step slower, and he hasn't always known what to do with the refs not bailing him out. He's still getting his points, but the degree of difficulty as a #2 guy is a bit different. Still, OK. Let's call him #9 on the list of guys better than Parker.

Just to name a few. One shortened regular season that Parker overachieved in doesn't make him a top 10 player

Compared with who's out there in the field, I don't feel like it's that crazy calling Parker a borderline Top 10 player. He did a lot of incredible things this year that nobody thought he was capable of, or I wouldn't have him in my Top 20. If he comes back next year as 2010-2011 Tony Parker, then he'll fall back out of my Top 20 all over again. But as of today, that's where I've got him.

[tesseractive]

Goran Dragic banned.

What did he get banned for?

[hater]

banned

what a got

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

What did he get banned for?

Calling Horse a fat beanword

[Reck]

What did he get banned for?

Pissing off mookie crew most likely.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Pissing off mookie crew most likely.

Nope.

[Brazil]

Banned ?