No one is saying it's a conspiracy...it's just poor officiating. And unfortunately if you're a Spurs fan, it meant your team got hosed.
There's no conspiracy. If there was a conspiracy, it would be to force a game 7 of a high rated series.
But conspiracy or not, the second half of that game was an absolute travesty of officiating. There is no other way to put it. And it absolutely made a difference. If that makes me a whiner, so be it.
Parker didn't even protested the call that Westbrook got hit by wind
Pego, this is truth.
I just think the Spurs lost all of their rythym at the half and couldn't get it back in the third quarter. They couldn't find easy buckets, Durant caught fire, and the rest is history. The refs certainly didn't help, but I truly believe the Spurs would have lost even if the game was officiated correctly.
It's easy to get caught up in bad officiating as a fan, because you're always looking for some excuse. But the officials weren't the difference in this series. If you're looking for the difference, try: the wilting of Tony Parker when it mattered most, the disappearance of Danny Green and other role players, an inability to defend the Thunder's best players and an inability to adjust at the defensive end, the complete failure of Tim Duncan to get anything going with his back to the basket, and the continued pussification of Matt Bonner and Tiago Splitter. Or, you can blame the refs. I will admit that blaming the refs feels better.
Blaming the refs is pretty re ed. There is always questionable calls, but OKC proved to be the better team.
Spurs got the calls in the first half when they were the ones moving the ball and being aggressive. OKC was the ones in the second half.
Also Spurs got worn down and started reaching in and fouling guys.
It would be too dangerous to let it go 7, spurs could pull off a miracle game and stomp the thunder leaving the refs helpless to sway the result. Had to finish it tonight to prevent the possibility of spurs taking a game 7. Don't be dense.
It's not a conspiracy, it's just business
It is the way the fouls are called to control the momentum, that bugs me. they were making sure OKC got a chance to score on almost every possession, while using offensive fouls to curve our runs.
Brodels you are just stupid then, get the out of my thread
The NBA clearly fixes games, series, and the draft.
I watch all 4 major sports, especially baseball, football, and basketball. I watch other sports as well since I enjoy them (watching and playing). Yet, the NBA is the ONLY league where I an convinced they are rigging things repeatedly, because they do it repeatedly. There are even patterns to it.
Yes, you can get hosed on a call or two in a game. It happens. Sometimes even three or four. But over and over and over? Always when your team's going on a run or when the other team is cold? Why do the calls always start right then? Why's it always in the middle of halves?
Why is it that every time there's an expansion team, or team that moves cities, or changes owners, they magically have tremendous luck in moving up the draft? This season for example, Every team drafted in their statistically given draft slot. . .except the recently NBA-owned Hornets, who were the only team to move up in the draft slots, and shot up past the three most likely teams to get the top pick. Not rigged? How about the Orlando Magic expansion team? They got Shaq in the draft, then the following season, leapfrog a bunch of teams to get Penny Hardaway. Not bull ? Or what about OKC? Moving up in the draft several draft slots each year to get Durant, Harden, and Westbrook? Not bull since it happened right when they moved cities? Chicago Bulls jumping what a dozen teams to get D. Rose to save Chicago basketball? Not bull ? Bending the corner of the Knicks envelope to make sure the irrelevant Knicks got to draft Ewing while Stern had that shift-eyed cold sweat forced grin on his face? Not bull ?
Lakers/Kings game 6? Heat/Mavs 2006? Spurs/Lakers 2008? Now Spurs/OKC 2012 can be added to the list. Ref-assisted series, and les that deserve asterisks.
Gimmie a break. It's the only sport that repeatedly does this . I have next to no gripes when I watch baseball (a sport I care about more than basketball), no gripes when I watch football (the sport I'm best at irl), and yet, basketball I constantly see fixes over and over.
The league is in rigged. I been saying it for years. It's obvious. It's the only major sport that's actually tainted imo. They've been fixing ever since Stern became commisioner.
Coming from a poster who made his user name and avatar that of a whiny crybaby y cuckhold wifebeater, that's a very ironic comment.
I'm a Thunder fan. There were some shaky calls, but the Spurs benefited from shaky calls in previous games as well. That evens out over time. No team benefited more than you es when Stern suspended the Suns crew yall were able to scrape by with #4. I thought your franchise exemplified class? Be a man admit we are better and bow down.
Yeah, most women, especially ones that have never even played the game, don't understand it. You are excused, ploto
OKC is a great team. But you can't have the refs hand a deciding game to them. Yes, they played well, yes the Spurs had a horrible third quarter, and yes, Tony forgot how to drive to the hole in the second half, but all of the Spurs momentum was murdered in the second half by the refs. We should be preparing for game 7 right now.
The officials influenced the outcome. Pathetic.
I rolled my eyes and accepted the gift back then. I hope you guys are doing that now. Good luck in the finalsI'm not against the thunder, I'm against the league who is intentionally tainting their product
I will only be a casual fan from here on out. I'm sick and tired of the biased officiating. Sure, most of the time it's not in-your-face bad calls, but too many 50/50 calls going the other way, games not called evenly on both ends of the floor, and David Stern's superstars, aka Lebron and Durant, getting the benefit on almost every call - and it becomes obvious that there's an agenda. They want Lebron vs Durant in the Finals this year - and the refs interferred just enough to kill the Spurs chances.
I don't agree on all your points. I'll explain why.
"previous games" calls we got? Name them. We got calls in consequtive fashion on only two occaisions. Early game 5 to get OKC into foul trouble. . .then what happened son? 0 fouls on OKC for the rest of the quarter, meanwhile nearly every call went against SA and OKC ended up even shooting more FTAs than us even though we got OKC into foul trouble 2 minutes into the first quarter. Now, explain to me how that helped the Spurs at all? I know damn well you were referring to that too.
Yes, getting into the bonus 2 minutes into a quarter seems like favorable officiating. . .however, what the does the penalty matter when you get 0 calls for the rest of the quarter? Seriously? That's not even helpful.
Late in the same game, we also happened to get 6 FTAs in the last 2 or 3 minutes. Great, except OKC got 8 FTAs in 4 possessions earlier in the series. Which is worse? 6 FTAs in 8 possessions, or 8 in 4? Hmm? And how is that "balanced out" too? Explain. One is an entirely ref-assisted run, and the other is less calls in twice as many possessions. Those FTAs also didn't help SA win, we lost that game because the 44 minutes that those "call st reaks" book ended were in favor of OKC. Ibaka got away with 3 goaltends, Ibaka/Perkins got away with about 40 moving screens, holds, and pushes. Harden pushed down Ginobili, even extending his off arm to make it obvious as what he just did, yet they called it a foul on Ginobili somehow. Collison was moving and in the circle yet got a charge call. So on and so forth.
Not called in favor of SA. Your memory is just selective.
As for the Suns, Horry got suspended two games for bumping Nash (did not deserve to even be ejected from the game really). Amar'e got suspended for a game for leaving the bench during an on court altercation which is an automatic suspension (due to the Malice in the Palace incident). ing about that suspension would be like ing about Randolph getting suspended for punching Amundson in the face. When you break a rule with a specific punishment, it would be favortism NOT to suspended him for it.
The Thunder aren't better. They're worse than the Spurs. They couldn't beat the Spurs without extremely biased officiating for 4 straight games. I have zero respect for that lame ass overrated team and it's cuckhold fanboys like you.
Uh uh, this ain't falling off the first page. Ssomething needs to be done about the league fixing games.
Lol, classless post complaining about us not having class.
Are the Thunder a very good team? Yes. Does that mean that the refs did not hinder the Spurs? no.
And really? "Bow down"? You know that part of having class is winning with it, right? It's one thing to claim that the Thunder are the better team; you're a Thunder fan with every right to that claim, especially considering that your team is going to the Finals and ours is going home. But telling fans of another team to "bow down" like the Thunder are gods or something is absurd and insulting. We Spurs fans have witnessed our team become 4-time champs; what exactly have the Thunder done? Our team went down, but they pushed yours to the point where they had to fundamentally change their personality, with all of our team's best players on the wrong side of 30. Not bad, and certainly nothing that requires cowardly bowing; this was done samurai style: fighting to the death.
We have as much right to be pissed as you do to be jubilant. If you don't like it, then GTFO off of a Spurs forum.
PS: I love how people conveniently forget how hyped the Suns were for the following game at home (which wouldn't have happened without the suspensions) and that the Spurs were the shorthanded ones the game after that (both Stoudemire and Diaw were back, but Horry wasn't). The Spurs were not gifted that series by any stretch of the imagination.
I agree, that one was atrocious. Harden took 2 steps into Ginobili and then spun around like he just got shot.Offensive foul on Ginobili, wipe away the three
One of the worst ones of the series. WOW
I think you're borderline re ed, but that's just me being an asshole to you. Great post, I agree with this completely. Imo, at the end of the day, if a fanbase is going to about officiating it's gonna be because of the inconsistencies.I rolled my eyes and accepted the gift back then. I hope you guys are doing that now. Good luck in the finals
I've never thought it was a conspiracy. It's just absolute garbage for the sake of keeping the game "fast paced."
Everything David " face" Stern has ever done is try to make the NBA more fast paced for the sake of television ratings.
No replays? Really? 3 Refs on the floor only? Don't stop the clock after a made bucket? No challenges to calls?
It's a joke.
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