Manu isn't in the "MVP conversation" or is the "team leader"... heck he is old and on the decline... apparently, it wasn't Sefolosha giving Tony trouble, as seen in the 1st half...
Yeah they should look to Manu, right El Nono?
I don't think we can win a championship built around tp. Love the guy but he's not a superstar and disappeared this game the same way he did against Memphis.. As we saw and I hate to admit it, you need stars to win. Not sure what we do, but unless Leonard or tiago becomes and allstar next season then I think this may be as far as we get. Every team just saw how to shut us dOwn. We need a defensive presence down low too.
I want to support Tony and trust him leading our team, but this series proved to me he just isn't a good team leader. I don't get why people get on people for criticizing Parker. I care about the TEAM not individual players. Parker was instrumental in our loss tonight whether people want to believe it or not.
Spurs fans are unreal. When Tony is gone, I hope you guys enjoy the next Nigel Knight that gets to run this team.
That makes absolutely no sense. You are blaming an individual.
I really hope that's not directed at me. That would be a gross overreaction to my evaluation of one game.
Nobody is saying Parker is terrible or that the Spurs would be better off without him, re . Were saying hes had a tendency to shrivel up in big moments, he did that again today despite his spectacular first half. He did that the past three games too. Last year against Memphis, 03' Finals, 04' vs LA, etc. Prime TD and Manu rarely did that and when they did usually came back and redeemed themselves.
I wouldn't say he has a tendancy to shrivel in big moments. At all. Tonight, I felt he struggled mightly in the second half when the team needed him despite being so hot in the first. He wasn't the only one. But he's the teams best player.
Apparently the guy calling me a re can't read. People ARE saying that.
Big moments against big physical teams would be a better way to put it. Hes been fairly consistent in big moments against the Cavs, Suns, and similar teams over the years. But has struggled significantly more against tougher minded teams.
Not entirely his fault. I don't mean that. Execution was flawed a lot down the stretch of the game but Parker is the PG and sets the game's flow. He should have done a better job of keeping stuff together and thus had the team execute better overall
I like Parker... but I have seen too many amateur mistakes from him so late in his career.
Link? All I see is people criticizing Parker and deservedly so.
tbh, I'm not even hating on Tony. Maybe Spurs fans are spoiled because when guys like TD or Manu were on their primes, you could toss the ball at them and they would deliver almost every time. Especially on big games.
Tony just isn't that kind of guy. Call if "franchise", "leader" or whatever. I was just agreeing with Brazil on this, who happens to be one of the biggest TP homers.
retire duncan
trade manu for picks
trade parker for young young point guard start over
win 15 games maybe next year
then people will respect tp
tp to pacers would make them legit le defenders
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199376
It was all the way 3 threads down on the front page. I can understand why you missed it while calling me the re .
come on Manny, that's a re ed thread... you seem upset at the criticism in this thread...
Maybe Spurs fans are spoiled? MAYBE?!??!?!?
You never stop to think that TD and Manu had slightly more talent - including a TP that was just as good as he is now - to help carry that load? Instead, when Tony can't do it with Manu and Tim that are shadows of themselves he gets all this .
Tony has not gotten better than he was in 2005. He's just had to carry more of the load.
So because some re makes a stupid thread, those of us in this thread criticizing Tony are ungrateful and ridiculous haters ?http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199376
It was all the way 3 threads down on the front page. I can understand why you missed it while calling me the re .
Its not just this thread. This has gone on since 2003. This is a decade of Parker being the whipping boy on this team and he can't even get a single thread of praise when he has an MVP caliber season and leads his team to the WCF and then has a of a game 6.
No, he couldn't do it all. That part is obviously true. But stupid s in here saying he cost them the game or that he choked. Go back to the game log. Who was that scoring down the stretch in the fourth and keeping the Spurs in striking distance?
Yeah, the choker.
Don't back pedal now with your goal posts in tow, face.
not spoiled, coming close but not close enough cause of some CONSTANT VARIABLEMaybe Spurs fans are spoiled? MAYBE?!??!?!?
You never stop to think that TD and Manu had slightly more talent - including a TP that was just as good as he is now - to help carry that load? Instead, when Tony can't do it with Manu and Tim that are shadows of themselves he gets all this .
Tony has not gotten better than he was in 2005. He's just had to carry more of the load.
He should have made Tim Duncan not hesitate on the 4 or so open FT line jumpers he set him up on to start the 3rd, TBH. If the passes had come from a real point guard Duncan would have gone up and shot them and rainbows and ponys would have rained down from the rafters. Chocolate too.
TP played fantastic but unfortunately, his second half was only average. The other guys should have been able to step up but whistle after whistle combined with the world's smallest pro lineup stopped any chance of the Spurs maintaining momentum.
manny, don't play with kids. don't embrace their child behavior.
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