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Saying he didnt deliver when the Thunder made their run and the Spurs needed him=blaming the loss on him ??
The previous three games are a different story.
He played fine...
Still rode Duncan to 3 chips...
Saying he didnt deliver when the Thunder made their run and the Spurs needed him=blaming the loss on him ??
The previous three games are a different story.
I will be very clear on this, i think Parker took a lot of bad shots in the second half, he was 9 of 14 in the first and finished 12 of 27, thatīs 3 of 13.
and i am not even calling him for this, because if you are a point guard and see the defense concentrating on you the logic states that you should be more of a facilitator, which he wasnīt, but the fact that in the first half many of his shots were lyups, while in the second half he settled for jumpers, actually, that 3 of 13 is only because untill the end of the game he realised that he could still do the same thing, penetrate and score.
THAT is what i feel about Parkerīs game. he was not smart, he didnīt lead the team the best way possible.
Um, yeah. Do you need a definition of the word Blame?
But it isn't. If I'm going to wish, I'm going to wish for the moon. We might end up with a bust like Oden, who knows? If we're effectively tanking and going for the lotto, then why would I want a guy like Tony that isn't a true franchise guy? (which you already admitted).
this is BS, tbh... I'm actually in agreement with Brazil for once, and Manny himself already admitted Tony isn't a leader/franchise guy. And that is indeed my main criticism towards him, and the reason I was on the fence when calling the Spurs contenders.
I hate that the Spurs lost, but I realistically think they overachieved this season. To be frank, when we traded Jefferson and brought back Jack, my season was already on the positive side. The rest was gravy, and it was a great season. I pointed this out on the NBA Forum too, btw.
Rode is kinda harsh. He definitely played a big part in those rings. He was definitely the 3rd best player on 2 of them, though and there's no shame in that.
He took the same got damn shots. What game are you watching?
I claimed I blamed the loss on him for his very poor shot selection late in the game. Being the PG of the team, he should have better shots and know to penetrate or pass more, not take crazy ass shots.
People claimed Bonner killed game 3/the series with his subs ution and how he killed the momentum we had, so saying the same about Parker shouldn't be looked at as impossible to believe.
Parker is a baller most of the time, but this series, against a legitimate team, he buckled under pressure and did not perform the way he should have.
Yeah, he was fine against lesser teams, but to make it out alive now in the west, you need to be able to react to pressure. Parker, to me, is just not a clutch player.
Let me know how well that franchise guy does without a guy like Tony. Spurs fans who came around before 2003 know this because we watched David Robinson in the 90s.
Who normally gets "blamed" for losses? The teams best player. This isn't anything new despite being emotional about a tough loss. Is TP the "reason" they lost? No. Is he a big part of the reason they did not win? Yes.
When the team was Manu's team, he got criticized up and down, including the perennial "we should trade his ass now". He also *delivered* in 2005. No shriveling, no BS.
He's old and past his prime now. He will have some great nights, and some not so much. But this isn't his team. This is Tony's team now, and he should rightfully take the blunt of the criticism.
I get what you are saying. Tony is a special player and rebuilding will suck ass. But you are getting to the point that you are acting like TP is so special that he is not able to be replaced even in the event of the Spurs landing a Tim Duncan type player?
Newsflash: Tony Parker isn't as good as Kevin Durant.
Let's crucify him.
He was the main reason why they built the lead so personally I dont put this loss on him. Im criticizing him for not coming up big when the Spurs most needed him during the 2nd half. Over the past four games I can probably count on one hand the amount of good quarters Tony had...Id say that definitely deserves some criticism.
Ginobili had a better game 5 than Parkerīs game 6 even saying what you are saying, Manu played bad this game but clearly he was out of flow and energy.
I am not going tot alk about Manuīs game 5 now, the guy scored 34 points on 21 shots.
You seem not following the discussion, people hated on parker when manu was the main cog, but Ginobili overcame awfull tony parker series when he was the main guy on offense, in this series, both Ginobili and Duncan played better than Parker overall given their respective ages.
I am disappointed in anyone who says TP is the teams best player but doesn't deserve any criticism for have a below average second half when the team was struggling.
He was awful in the finals in 03 and 05... 07 was the only finals he played well and it came against a mediocre team.. Yes he played well in the reg season and playoffs from time to time but better PG's have no chips.. Tony has 3 thanks to Tim.. He's had a good career just saying he has been lucky,,,
so which franchise guy ur talkin about if it isnt TP?
Those of us that are scolding Tony for his second half play are not calling him a bad player, but one that cannot deliver in crunch time. Thus where I said TP belongs on a team where he can be the star, not a championship contender team.
The Spurs team, as it is, could succeed with many point guards in the league; ones that are not superstars. Point guards that do not try to take over the game with unreliable shots they know they can't make, would be preferable.
I changed the topic?
We're talking Tony as the leader/best player. Saying I didn't want the Spurs to win is BS. Of course I did. I watched every freaking game, posted on every single game thread all season long.
I'm also realistic. This team had it's work cut out for them.
Oh he's able to replaced. Don't count on it though. How many point guards in the league right now are better than Tony? 4? 5?
Seriously, you should have seen the scrubs David Robinson always had. TP is really far more special than people here realize. He's the best PG the franchise has ever had. Don't count on another one being easy to come by.
You're delusional if you think Ginobili would EVER get criticized after going for 29 and 12 on the road in a must-win. Yeah, Ginobili got criticized when he was injured or when he was outplayed by Sasha Vujacic the last time the Spurs were in the WCF but in the same cir stance, we'd all be bowing down to Ginobili's greatness and saying how the Thunder are lucky he ran out of gas or else Ginobili would have destroyed them single-handedly. And I'd be right there saying the same things.
Be real.
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