This is not a ty draft by any stretch of the imagination; it's probably the best one we'll see for years. Not that I would trade Parker for the #2 though, because
(1) The Spurs have proved they're able to contend if they can stay healthy, so might as well keep the core together and see if they can add an extra piece somewhere else or if Kawhi can follow his impressive rookie season with a breakout sop re campaign.
(2) Kidd-Gilchrist is the best prospect after Davis, but getting him would mean trading Kawhi. Barnes is the next guy I'd want, and he's also a SF.
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If he leaves in a trade, I bet he comes back as a free agent for another run if Duncan and Manu are still here in the 13/14 season
Doubtful that Drummond would be there at 10, and Henson is way too skinny to contribute right away. Henson is a project with a really high upside though, and wouldn't be a bad pick there for a team that's rebuilding. At #10 I'd go for either Perry Jones for his size, athleticism, and ceiling, Kendall Marshall to have a solid distributor off the bench, or Austin Rivers to have instant offense off the bench (even as a rookie I think he'd be a big upgrade over Neal).
I really hope Pop sticks around for at least another 5 years or so with his track record of player development. That'll be a sad day to jump on that coaching carousel again that we saw in the 90s.
Thing is, none of those really fills the need we have for a big time defensive player next to Duncan.
If we got the #10, I think we would actually trade back down and pick up a big 7 footer like Meyers Leonard or Tyler Zeller and get an extra piece in the trade as a backup, like Mbah a Moute if we lost SJax
That's just what I was thinking.
Don't forget about DeColo coming over next season.
Bruno said so.
Honestly though, I don't want to lose Jack even for #10 + Okafor. You just don't trade away a guy who has been a bigtime playoff performer for his entire career. Especially when he can swing between guarding the 3 and the 4.
spurs get 10th pick, the trade that and get DMC
You give up jackson in a minute if you can make a major overhaul upgrade on the frontline. Amazing people are hesistant to make the deal.
Jackson is soon to be over the hill. You make the deal in a second to upgrade the frontline.
Okafor looks over the hill already though.
If bobcats are shopping there pick it ain't going to be to the spurs tbh.
a big who scouts openly question whether he even likes basketball & a wing who can't shoot?
yep, that's what i want to build the team around.
(both may well turn into nice players, but i feel fairly confident that neither are the #1 or #2 options on future championship teams)
Okafor is a candy ass. No thanks, especially for Buckets.
This front office screwed royally by thinking it could go on the cheap and replacing Jackson with 'anyone' after 2003. We remedied one colossal front office screwup this spring, let's not repeat history.
Okafor looks exposed trying to be "the guy" in the paint. But he might look a lot better playing next to Tim. He's certainly not likely to be a franchise savior, but he might be a better option than any of the alternatives we currently have on the roster.
I don't watch enough college ball to have a strong opinion on any of the guys that might be available with #10. If there's a guy we think we can be an All-Star, then it would be worth trading Jack. I love having him back, but Kawhi's going to keep improving and his minutes will rise next year, which makes it easier to get by without him.
The reality is, we pretty well showed that we're not winning the le with the current lineup. So if we want to have a shot, we have to try to improve. If the opportunity presents itself, that means taking the risk of trading known quan ies for unknown. So if we think we can get better value by trading Jack, or even Tony, I'm in favor of it -- despite the fact that I like both players.
Agreed, this is a great draft for the Spurs. As someone stated earlier, the FO could trade for a top 10 turn it into 2 solid players in a sign and trade or one top ten player.
Or go to the FO and bring up Coach Bud.
Yes, thank you. I'm thrilled that Jack is finally back. The team is already paper soft/paper thin. I don't see how they could trade a proven big game player for unknown scraps. The team has signed way too many fragile players over the years. The team is way better off with Jack in the locker room. I want him to retire a Spur if possible. He should never have left.
Bonner, Blair, Joseph and a 2nd rd pick for NO #10 and Okafor. Do not trade Neal or Mills. If push comes to shove, throw in the rights to someone we know we cant sign, example the player we got for Scola who retired and now wants to play again. He's from Greece.
Why would NO do that? That's beyond down grading.
I wouldn't do the deal, but NO would. They want space. 10th pick is a gamble to give up anyone significant. It's too high in the lottery. But it's high enough NO would rather gamble with the pick and the players upside rather than trade for a quality NBA player a step below an all star. The only trade that works is getting a bunch of expiring contracts to shed Okafor's salary. They will draft their big man of the future, resign Gordon, get in the high lottery next year, and sign a quality free agent next year with the savings from the expiring contract and they've got a Thunderesque team.
I just think 10 pick and Okafor keep us in the good not great catagory. And I want all hands on deck for the tankathon we will do to get Jabari Parker in two years.
Okafor didn't keep the Hornets from being a lottery team this year.
As for the tankathon, the Spurs won't need to do anything to get there. When Duncan and Manu retire, especially if its at the same time, your talking about removing 2 of the foundations of a system that has already been shown to be fading with its Superstar. At that point there is no telling what the organization decides to do with Parker, or what Parker tells them he wants. There is going to be an overhaul of the entire system unless you find another Robinson/Duncan like presence in the paint.
Kawhi is a good player and could be a borderline all-star at that point, but take a look at teams with Andre Iguodala as their #1 option, and that is a best case scenario. Splitter is a great backup (most of the time), but is he the type of player your ride into the postseason? Green, Neal, bench seat warmed by Cory Joseph, ect, do any of those guys keep you out of the lottery without the big 3 there?
There's no one in this draft who is going to come out and drop 6-7 threes in a big game in the playoffs like Buckets just did... at least not at any point during the remainder of the Tim Duncan era.
So, yeah, gonna have to disagree with you here.
If you're shopping for a big, it's got to be someone who can go down and play on the low post and pass out of it to open shooters (so you can lift Tim out to the high post). That, or someone with a functional jumper but great help side defender (like an Ibaka). Okafor doesn't fill either of those roles.
The front office game plan for this summer needs to be to keep Tony, Tim, Manu, Jackson, Leonard, and Diaw, and use any other player not in that list to get better. Oh, and whatever it takes to get that sorry POS Bonner off this team by August 31.
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