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It goes with the territory. You are made well aware of the possibility of this happening when you sign up. It sucsk when it does happen but its part of your friends duty.
My best friend just found out that he's being shipped out in November...not sure where yet but they said somewhere in Southeast Asia. He's been home for years now and has a wife, a young son and a career. What the is this country getting involved in now where they have to call up a reserve(Navy) who hasn't been overseas in years and has basically started a new life? Anyone else know someone that's being called up?
It goes with the territory. You are made well aware of the possibility of this happening when you sign up. It sucsk when it does happen but its part of your friends duty.
Gotta justify all that military spending...
American (Economic) Empire flexing its muscles and countering China all over the Pacific.
The MIC is insatiable and will fabricate all kinds bogus bull threats to sustain and enrich itself with Human-Americans being sucked dry. "We're broke" (the 99% is, the 1% is robbing us into poverty)
If you don't want to serve, don't sign up.
btw, I read the US is planning a huge build up at Cam Ranh Bay, which they built in the VN war, then lost and abandoned to the Communists.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 06-09-2012 at 02:10 PM.
I know good and well that it's part of the gig. What I don't understand is that he has already been to Iraq and Afghanistan and was a recruiter for 7 years before that. He's in his mid-30's and has done more than enough to "serve his country." His son is partially autistic and he just found out his wife has a heart condition. It's bull that he has to go back again. This country is trillions of dollars in debt...yet we are paying to re-activate a 30 something with a family.
I guess my rant is less about military responsibility and more about the US not being able to keep it's nose out of other people's business...and watching my buddy pay the price for it.
Ask the democrats what they plan to accomplish in Asia now.
the MIC is not under control of Dems or Repugs. It's out of control, and non-partisan.
The CinC is a democrat. Why didn't he say no?
We've had multiple people ship out to Iraq, Afghanistan, Qatar... my husband was scheduled for Qatar but his deployment was cancelled when he had to have emergency surgery. We actually were lucky; some friends of ours, a married couple, had a tough couple of years. She went to Iraq for over a year, leaving him alone to care for their four kids, the oldest of whom is severely mentally and physically disabled. When she came back, he was sent to Afghanistan for a year. He came back and retired, she's still in. Military families just know that being apart sometimes is the price that has to be paid. Somebody's got to do it
The US has had a completely volunteer military for decades.
True, but what's so pressing that they need to bring in the reserves? This doesn't pass the smell test. We have left Iraq, why can't the regular forces handle this?
I guess this CinC doesn't want to be reelected.
may be getting ready for WW3 tbh..russia and china have already made it clear not to with iran and they keep trying to go about it anyway
It depends what his specialty is. They are in the process of moving 60% of the fleet to the Pacific and retiring a lot of old ships and bringing some new state of the art ships on line. There will be a of a lot of logistical stuff happening in the next few years with the Navy.
I still don't see that necessitating bringing in those on reserve status. If they need more bodies, then enlist more, or ask those on reserve status if they would like to go active temporarily. I'm sure there are enough without a job right now they would welcome the pay.
I figured that out in second grade. Thanks for reminding me though.
I don't know that he really had a specialty. He was a recruiter for years then went active and headed overseas because he needed the money. AFAIK, they wouldn't need him for any type of skill specific situation.
It just seems weird to me that he would be called to go back...unless our war mongering nation is getting ready to get into more it doesn't need to be into.
oh that's exactly what is happening
Haven't you been reading all year about Iran, China, Syria? It's coming.
Man, the USA spend bulk money on military don't they? I figured Obama as someone who might lower it just because he seems like a rational guy and it could be used elsewhere
I know that you know but it is in response to people who complain about being deployed when they enlisted voluntarily or when people in the reserves complain about being called up when they surely were glad to take the pay and benefits that went with it.
It is like any job-- when you go to work and are told to do something that goes with the job you voluntarily took. What do people in the military think they are getting paid for and what do people in the reserves think they are getting paid for? It is not meant to lessen their sacrifices but they did make those decisions freely.
You complained because your friend has a new life that this will disturb. So why is he in the reserves then?
Thats a pretty shallow look at things. Just because you sign up doesnt mean you can't complain at what you feel is improper use of the military.
You know when you sign up that they get to do with you what they want-- right?
It seems this guy in the reserves would be complaining no matter what the mission.
I feel that way about any job you take voluntarily. If it is part of your job description, then you better be ready to do it.
Thats all fine and dandy, but people sign up with an understanding that the military will be used responsibly. Complaining about military misuse isn't something you can't do simply because you signed up for the military voluntarily.
The job description is to defend the United States. Its not to go off and play international cop or imperial soldier.
although I agree, technically that can get you kicked out now a days.
I honestly don't think anything is going on since they are still downsizing the army to pre ww2 era. by the time they're done with cutting 15 brigades, we won't have a big enough army to do much. especially policing dictators.
Your argument about us being trillions in debt is a moot point. Activating your friend is saving uncle Sam money from having to retrain somebody. It sucks when it happens but he signed up for it. Im sure your crying more about it than your friend is. My guess is you haven't served.
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