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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    Popsuckers at the ready to defend Pop to the death...or to perpetual mediocrity.

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    I'm labeling you as a labeler.

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    Kendrick Perkins has played 9 NBA seasons; in his first two years in the league, he didn't even play 600 total minutes. Doc was the Celtics' coach in Perkins' second season and played him a total of 548 minutes in 60 games (and 28 total minutes in 6 playoff games) .

    In 2011-12, Pop played Tiago Splitter, a second year player, more than 1,100 minutes in 59 games while averaging about 17 minutes in 13 playoff games. So, if you compare the players that way, Pop played Splitter twice as much as Doc played Perkins in comparable regular seasons and substantially more than Doc played Perkins in equivalent postseasons.

    If you want to argue age, you can, but Perkins just turned 27 this year. So, at age 27, Perkins has finished 9 seasons in the NBA with several long playoff runs. At age 27, Splitter has finished two NBA seasons and has only once played postseason games beyond the first round.

    Perkins didn't play 19+ minutes per game until his third season; Tiago played 19+ minutes per game in his second season.

    Look, Pop has a some history with reluctance to play and develop inexperienced, raw big men. But I don't think there's any substance to a suggestion that Doc would have played Splitter substantially more than Pop did this year because Doc was willing to play Perkins a lot when Perkins was developing. When Doc had that chance, he didn't give Perkins minutes on a Celtics team that was barely better than .500 and had luminaries like Raef LaFrentz and Mark Blount getting the most minutes of any bigs on that roster.

    History says there's no basis to argue that Pop would have never given a developing young big like Perkins minutes and Doc would have -- Doc had that chance early on in Perkins' career and elected against giving him minutes.

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    Kendrick Perkins has played 9 NBA seasons; in his first two years in the league, he didn't even play 600 total minutes. Doc was the Celtics' coach in Perkins' second season and played him a total of 548 minutes in 60 games (and 28 total minutes in 6 playoff games) .

    In 2011-12, Pop played Tiago Splitter, a second year player, more than 1,100 minutes in 59 games while averaging about 17 minutes in 13 playoff games. So, if you compare the players that way, Pop played Splitter twice as much as Doc played Perkins in comparable regular seasons and substantially more than Doc played Perkins in equivalent postseasons.

    If you want to argue age, you can, but Perkins just turned 27 this year. So, at age 27, Perkins has finished 9 seasons in the NBA with several long playoff runs. At age 27, Splitter has finished two NBA seasons and has only once played postseason games beyond the first round.

    Perkins didn't play 19+ minutes per game until his third season; Tiago played 19+ minutes per game in his second season.

    Look, Pop has a some history with reluctance to play and develop inexperienced, raw big men. But I don't think there's any substance to a suggestion that Doc would have played Splitter substantially more than Pop did this year because Doc was willing to play Perkins a lot when Perkins was developing. When Doc had that chance, he didn't give Perkins minutes on a Celtics team that was barely better than .500 and had luminaries like Raef LaFrentz and Mark Blount getting the most minutes of any bigs on that roster.

    History says there's no basis to argue that Pop would have never given a developing young big like Perkins minutes and Doc would have -- Doc had that chance early on in Perkins' career and elected against giving him minutes.
    Perkins came into the NBA out of high school not at Tiago's age.

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    We were not beating the Thunder for 2 reasons..

    Their stars were too young for us, they could play almost the whole way at a high level.. Prime Duncan gets Spurs out of that series..

    Tony was not up to the task. Nomatter who was coach Tony didn't have it when we needed it..

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    Thunder were on fire and played with poise.

    That said, HeAt in six.

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    What would be the results?

    Would Pop have taken the celtics this far in the playoffs?
    Would Pop have ever developed Perkins since Perkins has no inside game to speak of?
    Would Pop have played Allen on a bum ankle?
    Would Pop have beaten the sixers?


    Would Doc have the Spurs in the finals now?
    Would Doc have paired Splitter and Duncan from early in the season and had them develop chemistry together?
    Would Doc have been schooled by Lionel Hollins and Scotti Brooks?
    Would Doc have allowed Patty Mills to just be the 2nd string point guard since that was the only other true point guard on the team?



    Discuss.
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    No . His team of TOSBs lugged out in the Conf Finals just like we did.

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    Those players would not play for Pop. The first time he yelled at KG or Pierce, he would be fired or punched or threatened or all three.

    With Doc, Tim would have been tired or injured by the playoffs and we likely have a middle of the pack seed, and get ousted in the 1st round by the Thunder.

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