What the is going on?

[benefactor]

My argument lies in sending out soldiers to fight meaningless wars. You are right about it being cheaper, but it shouldn't happen at all.

He's pretty pissed actually. He and I have been texting back and forth all day. He feels as I do...that he's done more than enough and it's time to let him live his life.

Manny summed up well my thoughts pretty well.

[Wild Cobra]

Man, the USA spend bulk money on military don't they? I figured Obama as someone who might lower it just because he seems like a rational guy and it could be used elsewhere

LOL...

You're joking right?

rational...

LOL...

LOL...

trying to make me die laughing?

[Wild Cobra]

I know that you know but it is in response to people who complain about being deployed when they enlisted voluntarily or when people in the reserves complain about being called up when they surely were glad to take the pay and benefits that went with it.

It is like any job-- when you go to work and are told to do something that goes with the job you voluntarily took. What do people in the military think they are getting paid for and what do people in the reserves think they are getting paid for? It is not meant to lessen their sacrifices but they did make those decisions freely.

You complained because your friend has a new life that this will disturb. So why is he in the reserves then?

This is just wrong. The reserve units are just that. Reserve. They are to be used in time of crisis. Not at the whim of a president who doesn't want to support levels to daily task needs.

[Wild Cobra]

You know when you sign up that they get to do with you what they want-- right?

It seems this guy in the reserves would be complaining no matter what the mission.

I feel that way about any job you take voluntarily. If it is part of your job description, then you better be ready to do it.

I will assume you have no respect for those who join the military. How can you have such a shallow concept of what "reserve" means?

[Wild Cobra]

Your argument about us being trillions in debt is a moot point. Activating your friend is saving uncle Sam money from having to retrain somebody. It sucks when it happens but he signed up for it. Im sure your crying more about it than your friend is. My guess is you haven't served.

Still the wrong idea.

If you use up the reserve force for routine assignments, then what contingency do you have should you need to immediately increase manpower? If we exhaust our trained forces, then we are ed.

[Wild Cobra]

My argument lies in sending out soldiers to fight meaningless wars. You are right about it being cheaper, but it shouldn't happen at all.

He's pretty pissed actually. He and I have been texting back and forth all day. He feels as I do...that he's done more than enough and it's time to let him live his life.

Manny summed up well my thoughts pretty well.

It's not for us to decide if a war is meaningless or not. We can judge those responsible at the next election.

Your friend has every right to be pissed. Obama is so ed up to use reserve forces in this case. If he does this on a large enough scale, he will with no doubt, lose in November.

[ElNono]

It's not for us to decide if a war is meaningless or not.

rational

[SnakeBoy]

As is the case with all military service branches, Reservists have the possibility of being deployed. There is no formula for determining who will deploy or when, where and for how long that might be. It comes down to what occupational specialties and operational units are needed at any given time, and who is best qualified and ready to serve those needs.

Your friend wanted to collect his pay & benefits and get to live a civilian life. It's a good gig if it works out but now he's got to go do what he agreed he would do Boo Hoo. I was a reservist and when I finished school, got married, and had a good career I got the out. He should have done the same if he no longer wanted to be called up.

[Bill_Brasky]

Your friend wanted to collect his pay & benefits and get to live a civilian life. It's a good gig if it works out but now he's got to go do what he agreed he would do Boo Hoo. I was a reservist and when I finished school, got married, and had a good career I got the out. He should have done the same if he no longer wanted to be called up.

Wow, what an insightgul post full of information that OP already didn't know and things that weren't said already.

[boutons_deux]

The CinC is a democrat. Why didn't he say no?

The MIC will resort to any extortion to get its way, much like BigFarma, BigPharma, Wall St.

The MIC is an irresistable force, along with the Nat Sec apparatus.

[Koolaid_Man]

My best friend just found out that he's being shipped out in November...not sure where yet but they said somewhere in Southeast Asia. He's been home for years now and has a wife, a young son and a career. What the is this country getting involved in now where they have to call up a reserve(Navy) who hasn't been overseas in years and has basically started a new life? Anyone else know someone that's being called up?

awww stop crying you should be able to find a new buddy...remember Obama is no longer defending DOMA and got rid of don't ask don't tell

[CosmicCowboy]

Your friend wanted to collect his pay & benefits and get to live a civilian life. It's a good gig if it works out but now he's got to go do what he agreed he would do Boo Hoo. I was a reservist and when I finished school, got married, and had a good career I got the out. He should have done the same if he no longer wanted to be called up.

That's actually how I see it. If you don't want to take the risk of getting called up, then don't take that check every month.

Now if you want to talk about a ing, my dad was a fighter pilot in WWII and got out when it was over. No reserves, no nothing. He got married, started a family, and started a business. When Korea happened they drafted his ass, gave him two weeks to report, and took another 3 years he didn't sign up for.

[SnakeBoy]

Wow, what an insightgul post full of information that OP already didn't know and things that weren't said already.

Yeah not as insightful as your post. Thanks for leading by example...good job, good effort!

[Heath Ledger]

I'm not arguing that the situation doesn't suck for your friend. Im sure it does. I would be pretty bummed about it at fist also. However uncle same spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on your friends training and benefits and now its time to pay the piper and do his duty. Time for him to man up. It's not like hes getting sent to Saigon to a blood bath, or at least not yet.

[spursncowboys]

If your friend wants to be a coward there are millions of ways of getting out of a deployment. I am not saying he is or anything negative about him.

[SnakeBoy]

If your friend wants to be a coward there are millions of ways of getting out of a deployment. I am not saying he is or anything negative about him.

The guy has done tours in Iraq & Afgahnistan according to benefactor. If he finds a way to get out of deployment that won't make him a coward.

[Goran Dragic]

If your friend wants to be a coward there are millions of ways of getting out of a deployment. I am not saying he is or anything negative about him.

all the guys in your sig are heroes and they're dead. Maybe they shoulda worried a little less about looking like a coward and more about staying alive

[ElNono]

dayum

[mavs>spurs]

Been hearing that the military is trying to move most of their military assets out of the way of the radiation in order to preserve them and set up protection for our elites as they flee to radiation "safe zones." Much of the northern hemisphere is soon to become uninhabitable thanks to the Japs tbh.

[Wild Cobra]

Your friend wanted to collect his pay & benefits and get to live a civilian life. It's a good gig if it works out but now he's got to go do what he agreed he would do Boo Hoo. I was a reservist and when I finished school, got married, and had a good career I got the out. He should have done the same if he no longer wanted to be called up.

I agree with you, but unless this guy was like a Navy seal or something he didn't disclose, the claim is he was a recruiter. What skill does he have that merits being forced to go active?

Now in all fairness...

Benefactor...

This is a real important question for this thread. What are his job skills that they may need him so bad.

[boutons_deux]

It's not for us to decide if a war is meaningless or not.

WC, our favorite sheeple.

"Just Trust Us (or we'll crush you: see Wilson/Plame/Manning/Tillman"

Ever citizen has every RIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY to think and reason to his own conclusions.

Working, dominant assumption: the government (and in fact every big organization) is lying to you, if not outright screwing you, and should be treated by Human-Americans as an adversary (because it/they are).

[Wild Cobra]

WC, our favorite sheeple.

"Just Trust Us (or we'll crush you: see Wilson/Plame/Manning/Tillman"

Ever citizen has every RIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY to think and reason to his own conclusions.

Working, dominant assumption: the government (and in fact every big organization) is lying to you, if not outright screwing you, and should be treated by Human-Americans as an adversary (because it/they are).

It appears you completely failed to comprehend the rst of my post.

I never said we have no feedback. We put elected officials in office to decide. If we disagree with their decisions, as a whole, then next election cycle... They are out!

[boutons_deux]

WC, our favorite sheeple, thinking

1) Human-Americans' votes count.

2) that a new group of elected people will actually do anyting for The American People, rather than protecting/enriching the 1% (war is a lucrative money-spinner)

[benefactor]

I'm not arguing that the situation doesn't suck for your friend. Im sure it does. I would be pretty bummed about it at fist also. However uncle same spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on your friends training and benefits and now its time to pay the piper and do his duty. Time for him to man up. It's not like hes getting sent to Saigon to a blood bath, or at least not yet.

He's done plenty of manning up. He's been in Bahrain, Iraq and Afghanistan...and before he went overseas he was one of the best recruiters in this area. Can't give you and exact number of kids he brought in but I know he was recognized several times for it. And his reserve time is something he had to do. It was part of his agreement when he got out after coming back from overseas. If the choice was up to him he would have just walked away.

This is a real important question for this thread. What are his job skills that they may need him so bad.

He's a cop...patrol...nothing special. As I said above, before he went active he was a recruiter.

[BlairForceDejuan]

Thats a pretty shallow look at things. Just because you sign up doesnt mean you can't complain at what you feel is improper use of the military.

No sense in complaining when your bosses are c#nts and you knew this going in.

Godspeed to your friend OP.