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Speak that brother. Let's see, a movie where a dude walks into a building and just starts offing people with his duffel bags FULL of guns OOORRRR some dude talking about never banging a without a condom?
avante, you're being a hypocrite lol. yes some rap music promotes violence but so do the sci-fi flicks you love so much.
wasn't the matrix the inspiration behind the columbine shooting? the movies you love so much that promote gun violence are worse than some rap music.
Speak that brother. Let's see, a movie where a dude walks into a building and just starts offing people with his duffel bags FULL of guns OOORRRR some dude talking about never banging a without a condom?
I appreciate the real talk, thank you!
In reality I'm a football, track, blues historian. Now retired living off a pension, SS, my savings and my football winnings. When I'm in a serious (internet) mood I post on boards about those things where there are others there like myself. This board is simple and funny, I get a kick out of it. Of course I have to play a role to maximize the silliness. I'm having fun with it which is the bottom line. This total fear of trolls/trolling totally cracks me up. It's all good
This is why I'm shot this is why I'm shot...you ain't cause you not.
Yeah, I dig the blues too. I don't have an iota of the knowledge of the history of it like you do. I just know that I like it. One of my favorite movies was Crossroads. I love the dueling guitars at the end. I tried watching it again and realized how bad it really was as far as the acting and stuff. But the Ry Cooder soundtrack still holds up.I appreciate the real talk, thank you!
In reality I'm a football, track, blues historian. Now retired living off a pension, SS, my savings and my football winnings. When I'm in a serious (internet) mood I post on boards about those things where there are others there like myself. This board is simple and funny, I get a kick out of it. Of course I have to play a role to maximize the silliness. I'm having fun with it which is the bottom line. This total fear of trolls/trolling totally cracks me up. It's all good
For what it's worth, I saw a do entary about Fat Possum records and their success in recording some of the Delta blues guys. Really cool show if you ever get a chance to check it out....hold on..."You See Me Laughin". That's the name of it.
Ry "Cooder"...snicker
The highlight of "Crossroads" for me (other than that Cooder soundtrack) was the recreation of the famous Robert Johnson recordings in 1936. They nailed it as far as what we've been told.
They also got the Legbu thing right. Robert Johnson, Peetie Wheatstraw and Tommy Johnson who actually originated that story sold their souls to Legbu for their guitar prowess not the Devil.
I have a a lot of that Fat Possum stuff. The label also recorded The Black Keys first. R.L.Burnside, Junior Kimbourgh their big stats. Really cool how they approached the music, no bull , they tell it like it is. T-Model Ford another great Fat Possum artist.
Nice post.
one less.... one lesss..... one less.....
In the Led Zeppelin bio, Hammer of the Gods, there is a lot of talk about Robert Johnson and speculation that Page cut a similar deal with the devil. Hmmm. I had no idea that Legbu was not the devil. Thanks for the tidbit. Although probably means I'm going to spend the next 15 minutes surfing the web instead of answering phones.
Tommy Johnson was the first to tell that Crossroads story. He like Robert was a Mississippi Delta bluesman. He did his first recordings in 1928. Robert was well aware of who Tommy was (not related). So he simply picked up on the story. Tommy was no great guitarist however while Robert was. Lonnie Johnson (another Johnson who was born in Louisiana and played out of St.Louis)) was the best of the prewar guitarists, Robert was a big fan of his.
Robert Johnson had these enormous hands and long fingers (actually freaky looking) so he could reach places on a guitar neck most couldn't. Which gave him a rather unique sound.
Legbu was a Haitian God of the crossroads.
Jimmy Page a big fan of them old blues. When the Levee Breaks is an old Memphis Mimnnie and Kansas Joe McCoy tune.
Neither one of them cats had the balls to make the deal.
You two are dip s. Dip #1...it's "Legba". And he's not a god. And he's not the "god of the crossroads". Dip #2...quit having conversations with Dip #1. Why don't you guys just get a room and take turns blowing each other while the other sings pre war blues songs.
Wrong as usual.
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In Haitian Vodou, Papa Legba is the intermediary between the loa and humanity. He stands at a spiritual crossroads and gives (or denies) permission to speak with the spirits of Guinee, and is believed to speak all human languages.
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He is always the first and last spirit invoked in any ceremony, because his permission is needed for any communication between mortals and the loa - he opens and closes the doorway.[1]
In Haiti, he is the great elocution, the voice of God, as it were. Legba facilitates communication, speech and understanding. In the Yoruba pantheon, honored in Nigeria, Cuba, Brazil, and elsewhere in the Yoruba diaspora, Ellegua is mostly associated with Papa Legba since both share the role of being the god of the crossroads. In contrast to Papa Legba, however, Eleggua is a trickster child. Legba also shares similarities to Orunmila, the orisha of prophesy who taught mankind how to use the mighty oracle Ifá.
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He usually appears as an old man on a crutch or with a cane, wearing a broad brimmed straw hat and smoking a pipe, or sprinkling water. The dog is sacred to him. Because of his position as "gate-keeper" between the worlds of the living and the mysteries he is often identified with Saint Peter who holds a comparable position in Catholic tradition. He is also depicted in Haiti as St. Lazarus,[2] and St. Anthony.[3]
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In the 1986 film Crossroads, blues musicians Robert Johnson and Willie Brown sell their souls to a "Mr. Legba" at a Mississippi crossroads. Later in the film Legba takes the name "Scratch".[citation needed]
He's a spirit. The voice of god. Not a god. And even if he was, he's not god of the ing crossroads. He may stand there but that's not what his main purpose is. He's the ing intermediary between gods and men. And you've reduced him to "god of the crossroads".
Try reading...ok?
is mostly associated with Papa Legba since both share the role of being the god of the crossroads.
That was in my above post. Dude, pay attention!!!!!!
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Legba rules fate, chance, roads, doors, mirrors, crossroads, contradictions, opportunities, primordial light, and the daytime Sun as it travels across the sky. He is the patron of interpreters, travelers, and small children. Variations of his name include Elegba, Elegbara, Elegua, Eleggua, Eleggùa, and Elegguá. He is also called Lucero, and Exu or Eshu. His les include Papa Legba, Tata Eleggua, Lord of the Road, and Opener of the Way. Kafou Legba is his dark, lunar aspect. In the New World, Legba was syncretized with St. Peter, St. Martin Calallero, the Archangel Michael, El Niño de Atocha, the Devil, St. Martin, and St. Anthony (St. Anthony of Padua, St. Anthony the Hermit).
That was probably your edit on Wikipedia. You need to go back and change it.
Regardless of what that one sentence says, Legba isn't a god. But you already know that.
Papa Legba is healthy, the Papa Legba is wise.
You are so stupid it's comical.
Keep in mind this whole Sold my Soul at them Crossroads bit is from black folklore. The story they told was of Legba a god of the crossroads. It had nothing to do with the Devil. A story that is often told.
Why do you even bother, it's obvious all you are about is trying your best to prove me wrong. But know nothing yourself. That's sad little fella.
The story (riight or wrong) is about the God Legbu trading guitar prowess for souls.
I notice that you didn't copy the full Wikipedia webpage. You left out something. Here it is again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa_Legba
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He is always the first and last spirit invoked in any ceremony, because his permission is needed for any communication between mortals and the loa - he opens and closes the doorway.[1]
In Haiti, he is the great elocution, the voice of God, as it were. Legba facilitates communication, speech and understanding. In the Yoruba pantheon, honored in Nigeria, Cuba, Brazil, and elsewhere in the Yoruba diaspora, Ellegua is mostly associated with Papa Legba since both share the role of being the god of the crossroads. In contrast to Papa Legba, however, Eleggua is a trickster child. Legba also shares similarities to Orunmila, the orisha of prophesy who taught mankind how to use the mighty oracle Ifá.
Lack of education has caused some to think of Legba as a god. Even calling him, "God of the Crossroads". These statements are fundamentally wrong.
Then there's..
Legba
Messenger god; Trickster; god of crossroads.
Mercury / Sun / Moon / Fire / Gemini
(African: Yoruba, Fon; Afro-Caribbean; Afro-Brazilian
The Mississippi Delta-ites saw Legba as the God of the Crossroads. That's not debatable. That's why he was mentioned, how do you sell a soul to a non God. Well?
Yes it is like the Frankenstein thing.
You're wrong. It's pretty clear that the Haitian gods didn't interact with the humans but had the loa (spirits) do this. BTW, Wikipedia confirms what I've know all along.
Position
He is always the first and last spirit invoked in any ceremony, because his permission is needed for any communication between mortals and the loa - he opens and closes the doorway.[1]
In Haiti, he is the great elocution, the voice of God, as it were. Legba facilitates communication, speech and understanding. In the Yoruba pantheon, honored in Nigeria, Cuba, Brazil, and elsewhere in the Yoruba diaspora, Ellegua is mostly associated with Papa Legba since both share the role of being the god of the crossroads. In contrast to Papa Legba, however, Eleggua is a trickster child. Legba also shares similarities to Orunmila, the orisha of prophesy who taught mankind how to use the mighty oracle Ifá.
Lack of education has caused some to think of Legba as a god. Even calling him, "God of the Crossroads". These statements are fundamentally wrong. And Avante is crazy.
LOL. Avante you er.
Last time and I will go really slow...
The story goes like this.
You get there at those crossroads at midnight with your gutiar. A big black man will show up, this will be Legba a God of the crossroads. You hand him your guitar, he will tune it, if you take it back he has your soul you have guitar unworldly guitasr prowess.
How do you sell a soul to a non God.......NOW THINK!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't care who Legba was/wasn't that is the story told. The "uneducated" which they were in the Mississippi Delta in the 20's/30's thought that....................
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