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    Considering that Hibbert is a RFA, i think the Pacers will match anything for him, even if it's max money. Plus, we don't have cap space to make a big offer.

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    Hibbert is pipe dream in my opinion.

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    The days of the dominant bigs (Robinson, Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq, and Duncan) are over officially. After watching this Spurs series, and observing the general trend of the NBA, i can't help but think that post-play ball is dead. This time last year I was clamoring, like many here, for a big who could score on the block (e.g., Hibbert, Jefferson), but I wonder if the Spurs wouldn't best be served by collecting as many 6'7"-6' 8" dudes with long arms as possible.

    The future "big" need only be super athletic, recover fast on D, and work on developing a midrange shot (e.g., Chris Bosh), but size is no longer the equation given the speed of the game. in this future nba, Serge Ibaka (Serge Ibaka!) is a star in the making. Sure we have Dwight, but does anyone else feel that he is "so great" bc he perpetually plays against smaller players and muscles them down low? Then again, the "great" Shaq will be first ballot Hall of Famer too. And Bynum, Mr. Western Conference All-star by default, considering him "great" is laughable based on his maturity alone.

    All this to say: no to trades for Hibbert-types, yes to trades for Josh Smith types....

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    Considering that Hibbert is a RFA, i think the Pacers will match anything for him, even if it's max money. Plus, we don't have cap space to make a big offer.
    Hibbert has stated on more than two different occasions, that he loves Indiana and has no intention of leaving. Cross him off the wishlist.

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    The days of the dominant bigs (Robinson, Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq, and Duncan) are over officially. After watching this Spurs series, and observing the general trend of the NBA, i can't help but think that post-play ball is dead. This time last year I was clamoring, like many here, for a big who could score on the block (e.g., Hibbert, Jefferson), but I wonder if the Spurs wouldn't best be served by collecting as many 6'7"-6' 8" dudes with long arms as possible.

    The future "big" need only be super athletic, recover fast on D, and work on developing a midrange shot (e.g., Chris Bosh), but size is no longer the equation given the speed of the game. in this future nba, Serge Ibaka (Serge Ibaka!) is a star in the making. Sure we have Dwight, but does anyone else feel that he is "so great" bc he perpetually plays against smaller players and muscles them down low? Then again, the "great" Shaq will be first ballot Hall of Famer too. And Bynum, Mr. Western Conference All-star by default, considering him "great" is laughable based on his maturity alone.

    All this to say: no to trades for Hibbert-types, yes to trades for Josh Smith types....
    Exactly.

    I still think the Spurs could use a brute for certain match-ups/situations, but a minimal type like Gray or Orton would suffice. As far as their rotation, they need a Smith type. But even if they wanted a Hibbert type, there's nothing the Spurs could realistically offer that would dissuade the Pacers from matching. It's very rare you see restricted free agents of that caliber move.

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    Exactly.

    I still think the Spurs could use a brute for certain match-ups/situations, but a minimal type like Gray or Orton would suffice. As far as their rotation, they need a Smith type. But even if they wanted a Hibbert type, there's nothing the Spurs could realistically offer that would dissuade the Pacers from matching. It's very rare you see restricted free agents of that caliber move.
    I have been wanting the Spurs to get Aaron Gray for a little while now. He is a legit 7footer and is about 270lbs. Players like that do some serious lane clogging and take away the advantage that guys like Andrew Bynum have over the rest of the league. The Guy is cheap, I say sign him.

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    Spurs not looking for a Center. They have TD and Splitter. I think they will make a run at Randolph from the tpups, maybe Hill from LA as he started to show what he can do defensively, If T Thomas gets bought out by the Bobcats which is rumored they may go after him as Pops likes him.

    Outside of that, maybe a trade to help land Batum as the Spurs must upgrade the SG spot and have Manu off the bench. Decolo could come over and would give us a nice 4 guard rotation.

    Spurs may look to give Oden a look over, Ian could be signed if he comes cheep and would get mins now.

    Blair, Mills, Jax all on the block.

    My long shot is Spurs unload Bonner and Jax with other considerations for Amare from NY as they want to unload his contract. If the spurs could some how get Fields and Amare and deal Jax contract, Blair, Bonner and maybe Lorbek rights, resign Green and bring Richards over I think we are right in it again next year.

    Get bigger and younger on the wing, add a PF who can score and defend quicker pfs.....may be a long shot but it wouldnt be a bad short term move.

    Garnett would be great too.......would bring a little fire and a guy who can defend away from the basket. Spurs need to add an athlete at the 2.
    Well from your previous track record, I'm pretty sure we aren't getting any of those players now even if I stopped reading when I saw a Bonner for Amare trade.

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    Spurs not looking for a Center. They have TD and Splitter. I think they will make a run at Randolph from the tpups, maybe Hill from LA as he started to show what he can do defensively, If T Thomas gets bought out by the Bobcats which is rumored they may go after him as Pops likes him.

    Outside of that, maybe a trade to help land Batum as the Spurs must upgrade the SG spot and have Manu off the bench. Decolo could come over and would give us a nice 4 guard rotation.

    Spurs may look to give Oden a look over, Ian could be signed if he comes cheep and would get mins now.

    Blair, Mills, Jax all on the block.

    My long shot is Spurs unload Bonner and Jax with other considerations for Amare from NY as they want to unload his contract. If the spurs could some how get Fields and Amare and deal Jax contract, Blair, Bonner and maybe Lorbek rights, resign Green and bring Richards over I think we are right in it again next year.

    Get bigger and younger on the wing, add a PF who can score and defend quicker pfs.....may be a long shot but it wouldnt be a bad short term move.

    Garnett would be great too.......would bring a little fire and a guy who can defend away from the basket. Spurs need to add an athlete at the 2.
    This is BEYOND wishful thinking .

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    Randolph please.

    Also we should track what I call the fallen angles from previous drafts that went over to Europe. I know they're out there, but we know nothing of them. The way the college game is going, Europe is going to be like sop re and junior year for a lot of these kids with lofty one and done dreams.

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    Spurs not looking for a Center. They have TD and Splitter. I think they will make a run at Randolph from the tpups, maybe Hill from LA as he started to show what he can do defensively, If T Thomas gets bought out by the Bobcats which is rumored they may go after him as Pops likes him.

    Outside of that, maybe a trade to help land Batum as the Spurs must upgrade the SG spot and have Manu off the bench. Decolo could come over and would give us a nice 4 guard rotation.

    Spurs may look to give Oden a look over, Ian could be signed if he comes cheep and would get mins now.

    Blair, Mills, Jax all on the block.

    My long shot is Spurs unload Bonner and Jax with other considerations for Amare from NY as they want to unload his contract. If the spurs could some how get Fields and Amare and deal Jax contract, Blair, Bonner and maybe Lorbek rights, resign Green and bring Richards over I think we are right in it again next year.

    Get bigger and younger on the wing, add a PF who can score and defend quicker pfs.....may be a long shot but it wouldnt be a bad short term move.

    Garnett would be great too.......would bring a little fire and a guy who can defend away from the basket. Spurs need to add an athlete at the 2.
    You're slipping, 2Step -- ooooooobviously we need to trade Tony for George Hill, slide Kawhi to PF, and package Bonner, Jax, and the rights to Karualov for the #3 pick and hope we can draft a PF with teenytiny thalidomide hands.

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    Spurs not looking for a Center. They have TD and Splitter. I think they will make a run at Randolph from the tpups, maybe Hill from LA as he started to show what he can do defensively, If T Thomas gets bought out by the Bobcats which is rumored they may go after him as Pops likes him.

    Outside of that, maybe a trade to help land Batum as the Spurs must upgrade the SG spot and have Manu off the bench. Decolo could come over and would give us a nice 4 guard rotation.

    Spurs may look to give Oden a look over, Ian could be signed if he comes cheep and would get mins now.

    Blair, Mills, Jax all on the block.

    My long shot is Spurs unload Bonner and Jax with other considerations for Amare from NY as they want to unload his contract. If the spurs could some how get Fields and Amare and deal Jax contract, Blair, Bonner and maybe Lorbek rights, resign Green and bring Richards over I think we are right in it again next year.

    Get bigger and younger on the wing, add a PF who can score and defend quicker pfs.....may be a long shot but it wouldnt be a bad short term move.

    Garnett would be great too.......would bring a little fire and a guy who can defend away from the basket. Spurs need to add an athlete at the 2.
    Is this guy serious?

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    Spurs not looking for a Center. They have TD and Splitter. I think they will make a run at Randolph from the tpups, maybe Hill from LA as he started to show what he can do defensively, If T Thomas gets bought out by the Bobcats which is rumored they may go after him as Pops likes him.

    Outside of that, maybe a trade to help land Batum as the Spurs must upgrade the SG spot and have Manu off the bench. Decolo could come over and would give us a nice 4 guard rotation.

    Spurs may look to give Oden a look over, Ian could be signed if he comes cheep and would get mins now.

    Blair, Mills, Jax all on the block.

    My long shot is Spurs unload Bonner and Jax with other considerations for Amare from NY as they want to unload his contract. If the spurs could some how get Fields and Amare and deal Jax contract, Blair, Bonner and maybe Lorbek rights, resign Green and bring Richards over I think we are right in it again next year.

    Get bigger and younger on the wing, add a PF who can score and defend quicker pfs.....may be a long shot but it wouldnt be a bad short term move.

    Garnett would be great too.......would bring a little fire and a guy who can defend away from the basket. Spurs need to add an athlete at the 2.


    Uh Wut?

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    Same , different year. He kind of keeps things entertaining around here.

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    U goof balls know NY is looking to ditch AS for expiring contracts right?
    You know a lot more teams have better talent to swap then us right?

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    No one wants Amare. His knees are shot and his contract is uninsured.

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    U goof balls know NY is looking to ditch AS for expiring contracts right?
    I doubt the Spurs want to be committed $20M+ over three years to someone whose knees are on the verge of exploding.

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    Spurs to target Garnett?

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    He is someone they may go after once free agency starts.
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    Parker talked a little about Spurs offseason in an interview he made today in Paris:
    http://www.rmcsport.fr/editorial/267...etre-la-folie/

    Boris Diaw will be at the end of his contract, will he re-sign with Spurs?
    Boris wants to stay in SA and they want to keep him too but there is too the business side. Boris will get nice contract offers and we must first re-sign Tim Duncan. There are too Danny Green, Erazem Lorbek and Nando De Colo. There are a lot of possibilities. We will see if we will be able to get everybody. It's going to be hard but I trust Pop and RC to make the right choice. I think that next year we will still play for the le.


    First, TP has learned well his lesson and hasn't repeated last year mistake.
    While he doesn't say really surprising things, TP confirmed a lot of what has been said/hinted about Spurs offseason:
    - Spurs would like to have Diaw back but not at a crazy cost.
    - There is a true interest for Lorbek and De Colo.
    - Getting all these players will be hard to do financially wise.
    - Spurs likely won't try to get some other teams free agents. They will try to re-sign some of their FAs and bring former draft picks.

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    Parker talked a little about Spurs offseason in an interview he made today in Paris:
    http://www.rmcsport.fr/editorial/267...etre-la-folie/

    Boris Diaw will be at the end of his contract, will he re-sign with Spurs?
    Boris wants to stay in SA and they want to keep him too but there is too the business side. Boris will get nice contract offers and we must first re-sign Tim Duncan. There are too Danny Green, Erazem Lorbek and Nando De Colo. There are a lot of possibilities. We will see if we will be able to get everybody. It's going to be hard but I trust Pop and RC to make the right choice. I think that next year we will still play for the le.


    First, TP has learned well his lesson and hasn't repeated last year mistake.
    While he doesn't say really surprising things, TP confirmed a lot of what has been said/hinted about Spurs offseason:
    - Spurs would like to have Diaw back but not at a crazy cost.
    - There is a true interest for Lorbek and De Colo.
    - Getting all these players will be hard to do financially wise.
    - Spurs likely won't try to get some other teams free agents. They will try to re-sign some of their FAs and bring former draft picks.
    Great find, Bruno. Thanks.

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    I really like the idea of Tyrus Thomas here. Idk why but i feel like he could really blossom here, maybe not statistically, but maturity wise and finding his niche. We already have guys who are fundamentally sound and polished on this team, I think a raw, athletic freak like thomas could be just what the doctor ordered.

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    This spurs team desperately needs a defensive minded bigman. Who knows what Lorbek will bring if we sign him and we all thought Splitter was going to have a big impact and look how that turned out I dont think signing a european big is going to get us over the hump what my opinion is this team really needs to try trading for a bigman or sign a free agent bigman that's not european. That's just my 5 cents

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    i disagree on the defensive minded big man. I think Duncan is alright controlling the paint. It would always be nice to add another, but I believe they really need another big man (over 6'8") who can score in the post.

    Defense wasn't terrible against the Thunder, but it's hard to win when you can't score easy baskets. The Thunder switched all PNR to take away the penetration from the Spurs and Duncan proved he couldn't score with his back to the basket against an elite post defender. They gave Splitter a shot at it and he couldn't even score over Fisher, lol. Blair can do it, but can't even pretend to protect the rim on Defense.

    I think if the Spurs could have gone to the Post for stretches of that series and made the Thunder pay down low, the offense would have opened back up on the PNR and maybe Neal and Green don't disappear.

    Unfortunately, I don't know if that guy is out there this year and don't know enough about Lorbeks game to know if he fits that mold, but if he does that would really help.

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    i disagree on the defensive minded big man. I think Duncan is alright controlling the paint. It would always be nice to add another, but I believe they really need another big man (over 6'8") who can score in the post.

    Defense wasn't terrible against the Thunder, but it's hard to win when you can't score easy baskets. The Thunder switched all PNR to take away the penetration from the Spurs and Duncan proved he couldn't score with his back to the basket against an elite post defender. They gave Splitter a shot at it and he couldn't even score over Fisher, lol. Blair can do it, but can't even pretend to protect the rim on Defense.

    I think if the Spurs could have gone to the Post for stretches of that series and made the Thunder pay down low, the offense would have opened back up on the PNR and maybe Neal and Green don't disappear.

    Unfortunately, I don't know if that guy is out there this year and don't know enough about Lorbeks game to know if he fits that mold, but if he does that would really help.
    The Thunder spent a lot of time collapsed in the paint. Sending the ball to the low block wouldn't have changed that.

    The biggest thing that would have helped would have been clutch 3 point shooting -- ideally from someone who could get their shot off even on an iso play, so when the pick-and-roll broke down we wouldn't have to depend on it to get outside shots. Force them to adjust to handle outside shooting, and suddenly the lane is open again.

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    i disagree on the defensive minded big man. I think Duncan is alright controlling the paint. It would always be nice to add another, but I believe they really need another big man (over 6'8") who can score in the post.

    Defense wasn't terrible against the Thunder, but it's hard to win when you can't score easy baskets. The Thunder switched all PNR to take away the penetration from the Spurs and Duncan proved he couldn't score with his back to the basket against an elite post defender. They gave Splitter a shot at it and he couldn't even score over Fisher, lol. Blair can do it, but can't even pretend to protect the rim on Defense.

    I think if the Spurs could have gone to the Post for stretches of that series and made the Thunder pay down low, the offense would have opened back up on the PNR and maybe Neal and Green don't disappear.

    Unfortunately, I don't know if that guy is out there this year and don't know enough about Lorbeks game to know if he fits that mold, but if he does that would really help.
    If you think the Spurs defense was okay with only Duncan controlling the paint, check the numbers of the Thunders paint points when he was on the bench. Duncan is 36 years old. Also, check the number of offensive rebounds the Thunder amassed in nearly every game of that series.

    Regardless of whether he is on the court or the bench, this Spurs team desparately needs to shore up its interior - that means rebounding, defense, shotblocking and post scoring.

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    i understand they need better post play, but with no money and few assets beyond the big 3, let me know where we are going to find a player that fits those categories?

    as stands, Tim can can still play solid defense when he's on the court. Splitter is a solid defender in the post. He is not a shot blocking threat, and believe he ended up with a terrible match up for him in the Thunder. That being said, I think Splitter is a fine back up to Duncan.

    If it was me, I'd focus more on getting a post scorer if that meant having to sacrifice a little something on Defense. I doubt we are going to find someone that can do both with what we have, unless that is what Lorbek can do.

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