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Are you hearing this from the same people who told you we were gonna deploy troops in Libya?
maybe you and your friend needs to think about the other people who had to go through this exact same thing while he was hiding out and being a recruiter. from what it sounds like from these posts; he sounds selfish imo. i dont know him, just an observation. im fairly certain he is not the only one this has happned to.
Are you hearing this from the same people who told you we were gonna deploy troops in Libya?
what a sheepish thing to say. That's the at ude Germans took when Hitler decided to invade Poland/all of Europe.
When its our tax dollars financing the wars, our friends/family fighting the wars, and the politicians we elected in order to represent us and our views making decisions about the wars, how the is it not for us to decide whether or not a war is meaningless
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lol hiding out. What a got take. He recruited because he was a good salesman and that best fit his personality. He is responsible for load of sailors being in the Navy right now...and he went active voluntarily after that, knowing good and well he was going overseas. He's in his mid-thirties now with a job and a family. He wants to have a life. What exactly is selfish about that?
got take? my time spent out of this country during my time in the military (9yrs) exceeds his so yeah IMO he was hiding out. he did his ing job as a recruiter, congrats to him. i know plenty of people who missed kids being born, had marriages fall apart due to the strain of being gone and had loved ones (aunts, uncles etc..) pass away and couldnt be there for their family because they had a job to do. however, every ing time they were tasked to go they went, no ing or complaining. they were professionals in every sense of the word. thats what he gets paid to do. to go where the govt needs him. just because he went on a few jaunts overseas while he was active doesnt mean he wont ever go again. again he did his job. what is his job in the navy anyway?
also your statement about him being a salesman because it fits his personality pretty much contradicts him being a patrol officer. two VERY different personalities.
nothing selfish about wanting a family. whats selfish is ing about having to leave. the government didnt issue him his family. its something he got into knowing very well he could be called to leave them one day. if he doesnt like it then he needs to get out.
you guys are in south east asia now, is brewing there atm over whatever sovereignty is in the south china seas that china wants to claim from the neighboring countries that also borders those waters.....
i think a philipinos in here know what im talkin about, they are having constant protest over some uninhibited island with mineral resources underneath being claimed by china....
you must have not ever served. you can have a very highly skilled job in the military and still be a recruiter.
so your buddy is an mp in shore patrol? damn your buddy has some pretty ty luck. that job is a dime a dozen. hard to believe hes being recalled to be an MP
Last edited by Heath Ledger; 06-11-2012 at 12:28 PM.
He didn't really get interested in being a cop until after he got back.
I'm not sure what he does, but I know it wasn't an MP. I'll have to ask him. It's been years since we talked about anything relating to his active time because he doesn't really like to talk about it. I remember Iraq being rough on him.
The only thing I remember is that his dad works for Halliburton and when my friend got back his dad was trying to him a job there in some sort of supply position. Somehow it was related to what he did in the Navy. He didn't take it because he was still dealing with some PTSD and he needed time to get himself together.
I don't know, but find it unusual that they have called him out.
I would point out the recent strategic re-alignment that the US has done, increasing its focus on the Pacific rim as part of an oooh-so-delicate process of containing Chinese ambitions in the region.
We are picking up a lot of new friends who are more than a little concerned by Chinese sabre-rattling.
Hardliners in the Chinese government have been pushing for what I think is something of a self-defeating foreign policy.
China has been sinking a LOT of money into military modernization.
Don't forget the military junta in Myanmar's sudden change of heart.
Generals like that don't give up power unless they have good reason to.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-...fair-elections
Talked to him just now...and it's a bit a decent news. Looks like more Afghanistan. He got word this morning. 6 months in Kandahar. He talked to his brother(Army) said it's a little less of a dust bowl over there since they paved the roads...but he said they've added like 50,000 troops to that location so the pond is going to be massive and foul.
So false alarm as far as anything new...but I still hate that he has to go. 50,000 troops? Why the do they need him?
I have a nephew that is a blackhawk pilot with the Texas guard and he has already done 6 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Relax, it's all for a good cause.
I hope he's getting help for his ptsd. Have an ex gf and a good friend who has it and that is no joke!
Doesn't anyone else see the irony that a guy who was a recruiter and used his supposed great salesmanship to convince young men to join the Navy is now complaining about having to serve himself?
Ha, I guess that is a fair as point, Ploto.
Oh yeah but I think his buddy is the one with the problem. God bless
You've been out of the loop for a while. Some time in the mid to late 90s, the reserves transitioned from fortifying/supplementing the active force to becoming the first in shock troops. Been that way coming up on 20 years.
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this is a real important question for this thread. what are his job skills that they may need him so bad.
Clinton really ed up the military, didn't he.
Think about what you are saying..nothing is more important than family, "professional" or not. At the end of the day if you missed out on all that just to go play world police then you're an asshole.
Sign up for the 82nd stay in NC your whole career.
I have to agree with this. If there ever is time, i would want to have a say in the running of a state, it's when deciding should we go to/be in war or not. They can have their taxes and regulations and education and health and whatnot reforms - but if there should be only one thing on which every voice in the nation is heard, it should be on the matters of war.
When its our tax dollars financing the wars, our friends/family fighting the wars, and the politicians we elected in order to represent us and our views making decisions about the wars, how the is it not for us to decide whether or not a war is meaningless
He's done several tours already...without complaint. His son is partially autistic and he just found out his wife has a heart condition. You telling you you wouldn't be pissed to go back? Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing wrong with no longer believing in what's going on overseas anymore. It's been a long time since he was kid in his early 20's working as a recruiter. I guess you didn't change at all from your early 20's to your mid 30's.
From what I remember he had to stay in reserves as part of his exit deal. Believe me, if he could quit the reserves tomorrow he would.
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