lol j/k”....The network [CBS] has balked at paying any type of significant increase, sources say, arguing that the addition of Missouri and Texas A&M does not change its deal.
CBS’s deal with the SEC, negotiated in 2008, pays an average of $55 million a year to the SEC over 15 years. A prorated increase would take the value of that deal up to $65 million a year. The SEC could generate additional revenue by adding more years on the end of the contract.
CBS still will carry the same number of football games each season as part of its package, and network executives are arguing that schools such as Alabama, Florida and LSU—not Missouri and Texas A&M—drive the value of the conference. Without additional inventory, CBS’s stance has been that it shouldn’t pay more solely because the conference added two new schools..........”
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...-cable-channel
serious question, how much is A&M due to make this coming year by being in the SEC?
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CBS isn't going to say 'A&M and Missouri add great value' when that would only mean they have to pay more in the contract. Of course they're going to say we add little or nothing.
It will depend on the new contract, but last year SEC schools made a little over $18 million per school. I would expect the per-school revenue to exceed the new Big 12 numbers (it's the SEC). There's also 'Project X' in the works (an SEC network) that will happen sooner or later and add more revenue.
25/yr after new tv deal
Not that I don't believe you, but is there a link to this figure?
Just my opinion. Last season the SEC made about 20.1 last year. When CBS and them renegotiate the TV rights then it will only go up.
The Big 10 made about 24.6 mil/yr per school last year because of their widely successful conference network. The SEC is close to launching their network so I put the figure in the same ballpark although it could even be more.Andy Staples @Andy_Staples
The SEC made $116.6 million from football television last year. Total revenue was $241.5 million ($20.1 mil per school).
Missouri and A&M joining will have the biggest impact once the SEC launches their network which will be huge.
Here's this for whoever is interested as well.
College Football Viewership according to Nielsen (Released 27 Feb 2012):
1. SEC – 4,447,000
2. Big Ten – 3,267,000
3. ACC – 2,650,000
4. Big 12 – 2,347,000
5. Pac-12 – 2,108,000
6. Big East – 1,884,000
College Basketball Viewership according to Nielsen (Released 27 Feb 2012):
1. Big Ten – 1,496,000
2. ACC – 1,247,000
3. SEC – 1,222,000
4. Big 12 – 1,069,000
5. Big East – 1,049,000
6. Pac-12 – 783,000
For the SEC, CBS is not the money maker. It is 'over-the-air' programming, not Sat/Cable subscribers. Right now it is worth $4.98M/yr/tm for a 12 team league. I expect the new number (under negotiation right now) to be $5M/yr/tm for the 14 team league.
ESPN : The money maker. Right now it is ~$15M/yr/tm for a 12 team league. I expect the new number (under negotiation right now) to be $20M/yr/tm for the 14 team league.
SEC Network : The potential HUGE money maker. This is where adding Texas and Missouri TV markets matter. B1G Network distributed $8.2M/tm last year.....and that number has grown steadily every year since 2007 (the first year of the B1G Network).
If the B1G makes 8.2/per team on their network I don't see how the SEC won't at least be making 10/per team on their network (going by viewership)
So tbh I would actually put the figure close to 30 mil/yr per school once it's all said and done.
If CBS has the statistical data to back their claim then they have a very good leg to stand on. The SEC has nothing really to show since there is currently no history to prove what kind of TV rating the two new schools would bring in. It's not like aggsy and tigers have been playing an SEC schedule and has solid numbers to prove they add TV sets.
How many times have aggsy had zero TV coverage? A lot more than I can count. You don't sell out your stadium, except when Texas comes, and the shine of being new in the SEC is going to ware off quick after the beat downs begin. No one wants to attend games where they know a slaughter is going to take place. This is especially true when we are talking about driving in 60= miles just to see the game. There are better ways to spend your money.
I'd be surprised if A&M even plays on CBS outside maybe the Thanksgiving game depending on the other games that day.
SEC NETWORK COULD CARRY 40-50 FOOTBALL GAMES A SEASONhttp://www.outkickthecoverage.com/se...s-a-season.phpOKTC has told you the SEC Network is coming and we've told you that its payout could be stratospheric, approaching a billion dollars a year within the next 10-15 years.
lol 15 years
It will be 30+ mil/yr right off the back with the potential of going much higher down the road. The #s being thrown around are sick.
No reason at this point to think the numbers won't be as comparably sick with the Big (12+/-)
uhhh no.
In 15 years?
uhhh yes the potential is there.
How many of you ags had agreed with me in previous threads that the super conferences were coming sooner or later?
I did, and still do.
Within 15 years?
Potentially. While I think it's a given that the superconferences are coming I don't think it's a given that the Big 12 will be one of them. They might, but it's not a given.
Even if they do become a superconference, that doesn't automatically guarantee that the Big12 is going to be able to secure SEC type television money.
It's a guarantee that UT, OK and Okie St will be in a super conference.
I can almost guarantee that Tech and Baylor will be there as well.
I would think TCU would now get in also.
Since UT and these other schools haven't done it by now, I highly doubt they will ever join the Pac, the Big 10 or the SEC.........therefore it stands for me to reason they are fully committed to the Big 12 for the long haul.
And frankly, the Big XII is sitting in a rather favorable spot at the moment.
If they somehow end up adding Florida St, Miami and Clemson, I'll be sure to bump the aggy smiley faces in this thread.
The money would have to be comparable if there are only 4-5 super conferences.Even if they do become a superconference, that doesn't automatically guarantee that the Big12 is going to be able to secure SEC type television money.
Not only that, there is no guarantee that the SEC will be the best football conference in 15 years.
It wasn't even 10 years ago that undefeated Auburn got left out of the championship game.
If there are 4 super conferences, I guarantee you the Big 12 will be one of them. There are 3 main football states in the United States. California, Texas, and Florida. No super conference is going to exist without the main components of those states in affect.
Texas definitely.
OU is one notch below definitely since there is a scenario that they could get screwed in. That being Texas giving up on the B12 to make a B1G move. B1G won't take OU over academics, so OU's picture gets pretty hazy in that scenario. Not very likely to happen IMO, but still a possibility.
Okie State and Tech should be in pretty good shape as little brother programs.
Baylor and TCU's only hope to be in a superconference is the Big 12 becoming one.
Disagree. First off, we can ignore the other schools not having done anything. Any B12 school that could make their own decision to leave already has. All that's left in the B12 is Texas, who can do whatever they want, and a bunch of schools that the other major conferences either have no interest in whatsoever or would only consider as part of a package deal to land Texas.Since UT and these other schools haven't done it by now, I highly doubt they will ever join the Pac, the Big 10 or the SEC.........therefore it stands for me to reason they are fully committed to the Big 12 for the long haul.
Texas' current commitment to the Big 12 is limited to the 6 years that they signed over their TV rights. After those 6 years they'll look at all their options, B12 and otherwise.
At the moment, yes.And frankly, the Big XII is sitting in a rather favorable spot at the moment.
I'm sure you will, but those additions still don't mean that the Big 12 will end up with SEC type TV money, which is the statement that we're all laughing at.If they somehow end up adding Florida St, Miami and Clemson, I'll be sure to bump the aggy smiley faces in this thread.
No it wouldn't. Networks care about television markets and ratings, not some "superconference" moniker.The money would have to be comparable if there are only 4-5 super conferences.
There's no guarantee that the B12 will exist in 15 years.Not only that, there is no guarantee that the SEC will be the best football conference in 15 years.
TV networks don't care.It wasn't even 10 years ago that undefeated Auburn got left out of the championship game.
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