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    The Spurs should have never started Manu in game 5. Maybe Danny Green hits a few shots early and gets going. Then you have Manu coming off the bench to help balance the team. I might have made that move for game 6 if we lost game 5 but not game 5. I still can't understand why Pop went away from rotations that worked well against the Clippers. The Thunder should have been the ones adjusting to us. Not the other way around.
    Because OKC is a completely different team than the Clippers.

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    You forgot Green.

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    And Green was horrific. He had to sit.

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    I don't know about you guys, but I just re-watched game 1 of the WCF series and we had this series. It pisses me off that they won 4 straight against us. We totally had this, up 2-0.

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    I don't know about you guys, but I just re-watched game 1 of the WCF series and we had this series. It pisses me off that they won 4 straight against us. We totally had this, up 2-0.
    Spurs had nothing. You don't win the series with one win.

    Edit: Two wins
    Last edited by rascal; 06-13-2012 at 08:35 AM.

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    Spurs had nothing. You don't win the series with one win.

    Edit: Two wins
    It's not the amount of wins, it's how we won. We were playing 2012 Spurs Basketball. Guys were flying around, Green was starting, Neal was hitting jumpers with confidence, and when Tony was focused on, Manu stepped up. The panic coaching that happened in game 4 ruined our chemistry.

    Also, it doesn't help that the team's collective will had to be challenged several times by coach Pop "I'm seeing a lot of unconfident" / "I want some nasty."

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    My opinion why spurs failed , Danny green , bonner and neal Choked and Did Not show up . Only guys with balls who showed up was SJAX and manu. I feel the blame goes to the BENCH. Especially how Bonner continues to FAIL during the finals every year .

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    Turnovers.
    ty D.
    Bonner.

    All can be fixed.

    SPURS = 2013 NBA CHAMPIONS
    Can't be fixed when the series was fixed.

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    Blaming Green is kind of ridiculous. These were basically his first playoffs, and this guy went from a fringe NBA player to a starter on a playoff team. He might have looked like a future star to some during the winning streak when everybody and their mom were playing well, but he is not.

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    Did anybody else watch the Thunder/Miami game last night?

    What the Thunder did last night against Miami was EXACTLY what they did to the Spurs in Game 6.

    Miami has a double digit lead in the first half and then the Thunder comes out at the third quarter and puts the game into a tie by the end of the third and puts it away in the fourth.

    Sound familiar to anyone?

    This Thunder team is red-hot.

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    IMO, anybody who blames the loss of the WCF on Tony Parker has his head up his ass.

    In the first game Manu played like a god. In the second game Tony played like a god. Then we went to OKC and the Thunder [I]made adjustments[I]. Gee, what a concept.

    Focusing in on the team's best player (Parker) SHOULD mean that the rest of the team steps up and makes the stops. Did that happen in any other game? No

    Did Parker play like a god again in the first half of the 6th game? Yes (21 points and 10 assists for a half is better than most ANY other player on any team in any series. What happened then?

    The Thunder adjusted.

    Who stepped up when they focused two and three players on Tony?

    Was it Manu? No.

    Was it Tim? No.

    The closest was Stephen Jackson and Pop would only play him his normal minutes.

    Sefalosha shut down James last night just like he shut down Parker. Somebody want to suggest that James 'disappeared" or that his balls shriveled? No. He had to take a million shots to get whatever baskets he got last night. Tony stayed aggressive in the second half of the game or he wouldn't have been taking that many shots. How many times do you think he was fouled while attempting a shot in the second half? Not how many times he got to the line...how many times he was fouled in the act of shooting.

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    Re: Statistically Speaking: Why Did the Spurs Lose?
    I dont care about stats...
    Then why the are you posting itt

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    It's not the amount of wins, it's how we won. We were playing 2012 Spurs Basketball. Guys were flying around, Green was starting, Neal was hitting jumpers with confidence, and when Tony was focused on, Manu stepped up. The panic coaching that happened in game 4 ruined our chemistry.

    Also, it doesn't help that the team's collective will had to be challenged several times by coach Pop "I'm seeing a lot of unconfident" / "I want some nasty."
    Exactly. I think Pop needed to go back to that nasty speech. The Spurs lost their confidence for no reason. They were up 2-0, they blew game 3, game 4 was much closer and would have probably been won if we had been playing at home. No need to panic. Game 5 should have been played business as usual. It was not the first time they had a series tied at 2-2. I seriously believe we would have at least lasted to game 7 or won the series if we didn't panic.

    Green's shots would have fallen at home and he was saving Parker and Manu's energy by defending Westbrook. If anything Green needed to play more minutes with Manu. Manu is the type of guy to help a struggling teammate get going.

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    Exactly. I think Pop needed to go back to that nasty speech. The Spurs lost their confidence for no reason. They were up 2-0, they blew game 3, game 4 was much closer and would have probably been won if we had been playing at home. No need to panic. Game 5 should have been played business as usual. It was not the first time they had a series tied at 2-2. I seriously believe we would have at least lasted to game 7 or won the series if we didn't panic.

    Green's shots would have fallen at home and he was saving Parker and Manu's energy by defending Westbrook. If anything Green needed to play more minutes with Manu. Manu is the type of guy to help a struggling teammate get going.
    Yup. And if you still lose, oh well, you lost with your best lineups out on the floor -- lineups that got you a winning stretch of spring basketball that rivals any similar two-month stretch of basketball, by any team, ever.

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    Good analysis by timvp. Looking back at the games, I don't remember the Thunder missing a jumper during Games 3-6 when it mattered.

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    I don't think Pop started changing the lineup for no reason. The bench was horrible and he tightened the rotation to focus on players who were doing well. Honestly, the bench was losing their edge back in the Clippers series. I think Pop went overboard with his adjustments in a sense, and the turd towers was disgraceful, but I don't think Pop's tinkering was the problem or even the initial problem.

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    I don't know about you guys, but I just re-watched game 1 of the WCF series and we had this series. It pisses me off that they won 4 straight against us. We totally had this, up 2-0.
    Spurs got caught up in a shoot out with a more talented offensive team. Guess the great offense was never going to win it all..

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    Blaming Green is kind of ridiculous. These were basically his first playoffs, and this guy went from a fringe NBA player to a starter on a playoff team. He might have looked like a future star to some during the winning streak when everybody and their mom were playing well, but he is not.
    Making excuses for him is kind of ridiculous. His shot vanished and he let that destroy his confidence and affect his defense. The fact that he is basically a rookie doesn't change what happened.

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