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If it's rigged, why are you here? Go follow something else that isn't rigged.
How re ed does one have to be to think the league is fixed and still watch it? Still buy tickets to its events? Still wear its gear?
If it's rigged, why are you here? Go follow something else that isn't rigged.
Yeah, we've got ourselves a series now.
Either LeBron or KD is about to ring for the very first time.
Yeah, tbh.
As fans of basketball, we all have to admit Manu is in a top five category when it comes to flopping, but Harden's theatrics cannot go ignored. He flops on three point shot attempts, flops when driving to the rim and head bobbling when a defender ever so slightly makes the slightest contact with him...That's not to mention his go to bail out move of showing the ball and immediately flopping his arms up in the air when a defender ever so slightly reaches in... Just a pathetic display of basketball tbh. Harden is in a class by himself when it comes to flopping and getting bailed out. I've never in my 14-15 years of following the game closely seen a player rely so much on flopping to score.
this year has seemed worse than most years with the flopping by all the teams. Hopefully, the rules change to to make "no-calls" on obvious flops, or even penalize the flopper himself.
You know what sucks worse than being 1-1 in the Finals?
Being 2-4 in the WCSF.
You know what sucks worse than having 4?
Having none.
you know what sucks worse than that?
being a fan of the team that went down 2-4 in the WCF, because our millionaire idols are off in the Bahamas lying around the beach or in NYC with model girlfiends getting glass shattered in their eyes, and we're sitting here bitter and ing about Harden on the internet.
always good to think of things like that. Makes the whining and butthurt go away fast tbh.
You know, The spurs ownership group voted to let the Sonics move to OKC.....So we really ed ourselves.
Heh, true...Steve Nash may never ring, but he's still got more $$$ than any of us on here are likely to see in our lifetimes.
Now that Kobe is old and decaying the new cash cow is Bron Bron. No way in is the Almighty Stern going to let the golden child go another year without a championship.
Nice analysis, I don't ever recall Manu flopping to the level Harden's has risen to. It has just become comical and disgusting to watch.
I did not give much creedence to the idea of penalizing floppers. Now I am of the opinion it must be addressed at all costs to preserve the integrity of the game. A technical foul would do the trick.
The refs have apparently figured it out and are ignoring when Harden hits the floor now. Too bad it happened a couple of games too late for us. I would like to think they reviewed our game 6 and have owned up to this issue.
Now that they have identified it, a simple rule change to clean it up would be easy to implement.
Actually Stern is on record saying he does not think it is a legitimate play at all. It was the rules commission that was aghast at his suggestion of a penalty.
+1 for Stern here
-1 for the rules commission
I believe the best teams are:
Spurs-Miami-OKC in that order. After the Spurs I don't like any other team. That said, I have no problem with LeBron winning, he has been a good citizen and paid his dues, unlike the OKC players.
This is along the lines of even discussing the matter makes you butthurt, a poor sport, etc. You can simply ignore any thread you don't like and not post on it, if it is that troubling.
My point is had OKC won in an honorable fashion, I would be the first one to say "great job you deserved to win." As it played out, they lost my respect and I see nothing wrong or "poor sport" about taking that perspective and calling them out for their BS.
Yes, because OKC determines whether the refs favor them or the spurs. You're a ing idiot.
I bet Durant feels bad for winning because they got more calls and won without honor
Looks who's talking.
Well sorry if I'm not going to lie and say "Great Job OKC the better team just won, that's all folks."
Some may think that is the "honorable" thing to do, but its revisionist history.
Then we have a camp saying "our team is just not good enough," when in fact we had to be phenomenal in game 6 overall to trail only by two late. OKC is unbeatable when handed 10 points in their own building, I will give them that.
So Lebron is a good citizen and has paid his dues and the OKC roster is full of...bad citizens? There are no dues to pay. Get over it. I also was unaware that OKCs win over SA was dishonorable. What BS did we pull? They lost your respect how? Say what you want about refs and bad calls and even Hardens flopping, but your suggestion that OKC somehow plays in a dishonorable or disrespectful manner or that the team consists if anything but mostly high character individuals is a true reflection of your complete ignorance
It is nice to see. The only no-call that bothered me for one whole second was when Durant stared at the Heat bench after hitting a corner three with 4mins left in the 4th.
Maybe a case of Sjax and Joes Crawford not being involved.
Manu hardly flops now. It's been like that for the last few seasons. I guess labels tend to stick longer than memories.
Still going for the Thunder though. Love the way they play and Durant the compe or wont let them down.
You're not calling anyone out. This is a Spurs forum. You're whining. Nothing honorable about that.
Regardless, the actual Spurs did congratulate the Thunder, Pop did say they just got beat by a better team. Seems settled to me. If the team isn't complaining, why are you?
I for one am still bitter, and havent watched a second of the Finals (as hard as that is) nor will I. I believe with all that I am the league has conspired, more than once, to prevent the Spurs from winning the Championship, this one was really the last straw. But i will admit it puts me in an awkward place cause i am a basketball fan, and it sucks not being able to watch the game played on its highest level.
SA got pummeled for long stretches of that series
Out hustled and outplayed. They were sloppy, flat, turnover prone, and couldn't hit open shots. That's why they lost the series. I suppose you just want to forget all of that and look at a few questionable calls late in game 6 and blame them losing the series on the refs.
The Harden contagion has spread through your team as evidenced by the critical Durant flop. As it became clearer the refs were completely clueless, the flops became more brazen and disgusting as evidenced on into the finals esp. game 2. I didn't appreciate the thuggish jersey grabbing by Perkins on screens, and Fisher was a nasty flopping POS when he was still fast enough to ever get set. So yes, "SCREW YO TEAM CLOWN" is a reasonable perspective to have.
Sounds like you forgot about 58-80 in our game 2 and being down 18 at home in game 6. No way in you guys come back from that without the severe ref aiding that occurred. I'm sure you would like everyone to just forget about it, but it's not going to happen around here. Our team showed it can pummel OKC for long stretches just like Miami has.
In games 3-5 the refs completely botched numerous goaltend calls on our layup attempts. Spurs are not an above the rim dunking kinds of team. By allowing Ibaka to goaltend on layups it seriously impaired our offense and resulted in huge momentum shifts of 4 points by igniting OKC fast breaks, costing the Spurs dearly down the stretch in games 4-5 that were close enough to win. Then all the "superstar calls" OKC got, refs essentially would not even allow guarding of Durant at times, phantom shooting fouls on jumpshots him and Westbrook, not even noticeable on slow motion replays, bleah.
OKC has a nice team and I think they should hold a higher standard in their play. As an OKC fan I would simply be embarrassed by Harden at this point, he's gotten out of control.
As for the finals Miami simply has the goods on your guys. Not only do they have a at least an equivalent of the "superstar calls", but they can attack the rim and dunk, forcing the issue on guys like Ibaka and Durant and getting them in foul trouble.
Please check in after its 3-1 Miami to confirm/deny, and thanks for your patronage.
OKC. I don't get people who can hate Lebron for his decision(which he apologized for and said he understood why Dan Gilbert was angry). All Cleveland lost was one player. A really, really good player but still just one.
OKC's ownership group LIED to the fans in Seattle and stole their entire team along with their history. A team led by Kevin Durant that's in the finals right now. That is bull .
Yes- flopping is clearly unique to OKC, as is pulling on a jersey. Very thuggish. I do not believe I saw a single instance of grabbing or flopping by any Spurs player and thats just very commendable. OkC also got ALL the calls-right. I think I'll stop cheerin for the thug cheaters here in OKC. You might be right about Miami. I never claimed otherwise. We will see. I didn't even think OKC could get past SA. Thanks to the refs and current conspiracies by the NBA, we prevailed.
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