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Lol the black guy I had last time said they make a waiters wage which I thought wasnt true but I took his word.
The ones here in my city are always packed though so I wonder if they make good tips
No lie these two guys I know dropped out of college because of how much they made bartending so they went to do it full time (even though you can easily bartend and take 12 units) and they pocket like 75k a year each doing weddings and events.
Lol the black guy I had last time said they make a waiters wage which I thought wasnt true but I took his word.
The ones here in my city are always packed though so I wonder if they make good tips
Waiters' wage is seriously like 4 bucks an hour without tips.
What is odd is that I've been stiffed on tips much more by whites than blacks.
Cool story mouse/JoeChalupa/BigSnax
Why do you give a anyways? You're paying with your baby mama's money.
No it's part of the price structure and should be clearly marked on the menu (by law). Historically it is not a tip but more of a couvert (cover?) charge. In theory it is for an above standard service/setting and to show that the food is not more expensive just the service.
In reality this is often not the case anymore (especially in France) and it's the way that the restaurant chooses to structure it's prices to show you the price of the food and the price of the service (kinda like sales taxes in the US - you never pay the price on the tag but x% more and everybody knows it - again kinda). The only real tip is whatever change you decide to leave on the table for the waiter, but it is something extra, a bonus - not a necessary part of her/his salary.
I wonder if wage is any different at sonic than a classic restaurant? When I was at Olive Garden last summer, we made $2.13 hourly but the tips more than made up for it. Being a server sucks though imo and I left.
No hate but being a male waitress is pretty embarrassing imo.
Not when girls leave their number tbh
Gotta love that Mexican machismo
Geez
Bartenders don't always make bank. The few I've dated/known were doing alright, a bit better than alright when you factor in tips, but none were making $60-75k.
Even if they were, though, I still think bartenders are deserving of tips and appreciation. They supply alcohol when it is needed AND they have to put up with tons of drunk assholes. Saints among men, they are.
There's no way people at Sonic make enough in tips for the restaurant to only pay them $2.13 an hour.
I'm not hating, it's a tough job, especially the ones who work at bars/clubs that are jam packed every night.
Not as embarrassing as being a female waiter.
You gotta do what you gotta do sometimes
I just don't get the "it's a bad system" idea. It's all semantics. If you are willing to spend money going out to eat, whether they up the price of the food and make tipping "optional" because they pay the wait staff better or they do it this way, in the end you are coming out the same for the most part.
Not when you are a waiter and not a waitress. I waited tables during my college years and met and dated quite a few women and the tips were great.
Exactly^
It's a bad system because it singles out how a specific group of people is getting paid. I'll make it easier for you, if it is a good system, why aren't employees from other service based industries asking/fighting/begging for the introduction of tip based salaries in their respective jobs?
But yeah, since I only eat in restaurants, why the should I care.
Because other service jobs don't feel it's a sustainable model for the level of talent they need to run a successful business?
So you are saying you are standing up against a "bad business" practice even though the alternative (paying them higher salaries, raising the price of food to compensate) results in the same out come in what you the consumer pays?
Evidently the model is fine because plenty of people still go out to eat and spend their money. Just because it doesn't apply to many models, doesn't mean it's a terrible one and in the scheme of things I don't see the big deal in an industry such as the restaurant industry.
There are several models that don't apply across the board, but that does not make them bad or worth arguing about. Take the pedi-cabs in Austin,TX (bicycle cabs) that operate on the "pay what you feel it's worth" model. It's not something you can use in every industry (people have tried tweaking this type of model in other business forms and it has not found success), but for this particular industry it seems to work.
OP is Manu obviously.
and you generally have to tip out runners and the kitchen from your tips.
Really, I don't mind tipping at all. I just figure its part of the price at the restreraunt, but the fact that I'm paying you directly for service makes me really pissed off when I don't get good service. See my old pizza delivery threads.
I HATE tip jars for like clerks at a gas station or like that. I also never tip at Sonic. I feel tipping at Sonic is a total crock.
I usually tip dealers when I play live poker but I only toke a dollar. That whole pisses me off too but I would rather not piss off a dealer who could "accidently" muck my cards etc etc. I feel thats more like a blackmail situation though.
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