Damn...taking political pandering to a whole new level...

[mavs>spurs]

No rebuttal I see.

[Blake]

No rebuttal I see.

It's hard to rebutt generalizations, anecdotes and/or strawmen from other countries.

Do you have any specific story of American handicapping you are referring to?

[Blake]

CC raising the comedy smack bar!

unintentionally

[ElNono]

This wit is so out of touch with the average every day american citizen. First he says that the private sector is "doing fine." No the it is not doing fine. Unemployment is ridiculously high and went up a tick last month.

Now he wants to add millions of illegals to the mix? All I got to say is when November comes around, I hope they are all counted up and reflected in the unemployment numbers, jack that thing up and make the mf'er look even worse.

Actually, if you're cynic enough, you could see this move as a boost to the private sector... there's nothing the private sector likes more than hiring cheap ass labor with zero rights...

[mavs>spurs]

It's hard to rebutt generalizations, anecdotes and/or strawmen from other countries.

Do you have any specific story of American handicapping you are referring to?

Yeah all the millions of Americans out of work who can't simply border hop to solve all their problems.

[ElNono]

That doesn't tell me why American jobs belong to foreigners but the Same cannot be said vice versa. If there are no jobs here and I wanted To look elsewhere, there isn't a country on earth that would let me skip the process and go tomorrow and even reward me once I get there for breaking the law.

You might want to check with Argentina, tbh

[mavs>spurs]

You Obama supporters also ignore the cons utionality of such a move. I don't like open borders, rewarding lawbreakers, uncons utional wars and drones in American skies reporting back to the fusion centers who are spying on you I'm sorry.

[ElNono]

BTW, I don't think getting a job in China is really that complicated. Some US companies firing people here in the US are aggressively hiring in China.

The problem is lowering your standard of living to those of the Chinese... and upgrading your work ethic to 14hrs/day shifts for pennies on the dollar...

[mavs>spurs]

You might want to check with Argentina, tbh

Just curious how long does the process To get a work visa/residency last in Argentina?

[Blake]

Yeah all the millions of Americans out of work who can't simply border hop to solve all their problems.

so the illegal aliens are going to take the jobs that are held by the out-of-work Americans

neat.

[ElNono]

Just curious how long does the process To get a work visa/residency last in Argentina?

No idea. I don't even know people even bother... once you're in, I doubt anybody is kicking you out. Heck, place got packed with Bolivian and Paraguayan when their economy was in the ter. You're not going to be asked to show papers for anything... half the population probably don't pay taxes anyways.

[mavs>spurs]

BTW, I don't think getting a job in China is really that complicated. Some US companies firing people here in the US are aggressively hiring in China.

The problem is lowering your standard of living to those of the Chinese... and upgrading your work ethic to 14hrs/day s for pennies on the dollar...

Things are also cheaper there to compensate for lower pay. According to theory, a big Mac in America (or any standardized item) should cost roughly the same anywhere (adjusted for exchange rates)
and in a lot of cases it holds true. Chinese standard of living isn't so bad in the big cities and is rapidly improving.

[mavs>spurs]

so the illegal aliens are going to take the jobs that are held by the out-of-work Americans

neat.

They're going to compete with out of work Americans for scarce jobs and further suppress wages.

[ElNono]

Things are also cheaper there to compensate for lower pay. According to theory, a big Mac in America (or any standardized item) should cost roughly the same anywhere and in a lot of cases it holds true. Chinese standard of living isn't so bad in the big cities and is rapidly improving.

Basic stuff like food and clothes might be cheaper, but anything else is probably simply unaffordable. That's why piracy of everything is rampant there.

[Blake]

They're going to compete with out of work Americans for scarce jobs and further suppress wages.

have you read who it is that the Obama admin is talking about giving work visas to, or are you assuming some Mexican pole vaulter is going to make it over the wall and take your accounting job?

[mavs>spurs]

Basic stuff like food and clothes might be cheaper, but anything else is probably simply unaffordable. That's why piracy of everything is rampant there.

Cheap food and free stuff sounds good to me

Oh wait I can't just ignore their borders and show up tomorrow

[mouse]

unintentionally

How can you post a funny comment on the www unless you thought about it first?

[mavs>spurs]

have you read who it is that the Obama admin is talking about giving work visas to, or are you assuming some Mexican pole vaulter is going to make it over the wall and take your accounting job?

Children of illegal immigrants who have been educated via the American tax payer and in many cases go to college, maybe even studying finance like me in the case of a couple I know.

[ElNono]

Cheap food and free stuff sounds good to me

Oh wait I can't just ignore their borders and show up tomorrow

why not? half or more of the illegals in this country come in with a valid tourist visa and overstay... I doubt the Chinese would deny you entry if you tell them you're going to visit...

[mavs>spurs]

Only difference is I wouldn't be rewarded upon getting caught tbh they'd out my ass in jail and most illegals never had a visa anyway they just border hopped

[Blake]

Children of illegal immigrants who have been educated via the American tax payer and in many cases go to college, maybe even studying finance like me in the case of a couple I know.

if we've already spent tax dollars educating them, then why do you want to throw away that investment?

if that kid is better at crunching numbers than you, then I don't give a if you were born on July 4th in front of the liberty bell, I'm hiring the that kid.

Step up your game or step aside, imo.

[mouse]

Step up your game or step aside, imo.

You may have outed a TRoll.

[mavs>spurs]

if we've already spent tax dollars educating them, then why do you want to throw away that investment?

if that kid is better at crunching numbers than you, then I don't give a if you were born on July 4th in front of the liberty bell, I'm hiring the that kid.

Step up your game or step aside, imo.

I'm not an accountant though. Finance thinking about going back for geology I kind of don't want to work in the corporate world forever tbh. Dok is the accountant, I guess you're confused.

But I agree that smart kids who are going to be good at what they study should apply for a student visa and get the job upon graduation, except that's kind of already happening maybe the lawbreakers should have taken notice.

[Wild Cobra]

Don't you mean "Americans"?

Legal resident aliens.

[Blake]

I'm not an accountant though. Finance thinking about going back for geology I kind of don't want to work in the corporate world forever tbh. Dok is the accountant, I guess you're confused.

neat

But I agree that smart kids who are going to be good at what they study should apply for a student visa and get the job upon graduation, except that's kind of already happening maybe the lawbreakers should have taken notice.

I'm saying I'd rather hire the smarter illegal kids that want to be productive members of society that some whiner that has a sense of en lement.