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    Obama prematurely pulled the the Green card ripcord!
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    I'm saying I'd rather hire the smarter illegal kids that want to be productive members of society that some whiner that has a sense of en lement.
    the illegals aren't smarter, not on average outside of a few anomalies. You're being extremely unpatriotic and not very neighborly to your fellow Americans.

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    the illegals aren't smarter...
    How are young Americans supposed to compete
    With such a handicap?

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    Illegals work cheaper

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    Illegals work cheaper
    I've been looking for cheap Finance Geology labor.

    Thanks for the tip

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    I've been looking for cheap Finance Geology labor.

    Thanks for the tip
    what about the ones who go to college and will compete with me for jobs?

    it's not right, not with 8.2% (admitted) unemployment, i just don't agree that this is the right thing to do especially under executive order side stepping congress. this is an issue that needs to be brought before congress.

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    what about the ones who go to college and will compete with me for jobs?
    You just said they aren't smarter.

    How many of the 800k do you think will be competing with you for a job?

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    first of all, i don't agree on the 800k number. i think its totally ridiculous and a slap in the face.

    you telling me i personally know 20 or so of the only 800k in existence? thats like, 3% of the people i know. doesn't seem likely that a huge portion of these people would be right here in my town, people i grew up with and went to school with.

    the number is a lot bigger.

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    illegals didn't cause, won't worsen, the unemployment crisis, which is completely due to the Banksters' Great (Jobs) Depression.


    Immigrant Entrepreneurship On The Rise In US


    Immigrants are assuming a bigger role on Main Street, according to a new report from the Fiscal Policy Ins ute's Immigration Research Initiative.

    Immigrants now make up 18 percent of small-business owners in the United States, a six percent increase from 20 years ago.

    The report found that 37 percent of immigrant entrepreneurs own a restaurant, 49 percent own grocery stores and 54 percent own laundry and dry cleaning services.

    "With immigrants making up one in six of all small business owners, a climate that is hostile to immigrants is also a climate that is bad for business," said Frank Mauro, executive director of the Fiscal Policy Ins ute in a statement.

    The report highlights the fact that immigrant businesses are no longer concentrated near traditional entry points and have spread far beyond metropolitan areas. Additionally, the breadth of cultures and countries of origin has grown, though immigrants from the Middle East, Asia and Southern Europe have the highest rates of US business ownership.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...comm_ref=false

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    http://www.fiscalpolicy.org/immigran...I-20120614.pdf

    Just like all waves of immigrants in the past 200 years, the immigrants scrap hard to get a handhold.

    Small companies are job creators, while UCA and its greedy mgmt and capitalists are (US) job destroyers.

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    No doubt the Repugs will attack this move, probably legally, losing significant Latino votes.

    Repugs have and will continue to alienate the women vote with anti-abortion, anti-contraception, anti-Paycheck-Equality stances and votes.

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    I think it could backfire politically. I don't doubt that it has anything to do with anything other than election-year politics...I'm just saying I think it could backfire.
    How's it going to backfire? The people angry with this were Obama NO votes anyway. The people happy with this were likely on the fence, and are likely to skew Obama now. It was a brilliant piece of political strategy that played on the basic dissonance of the GOP wanting tough immigration AND Hispanic votes. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. I like it because no one was insulted, belittled, and almost no money was spent, and it's a huge win. If the GOP tries to edge this way, they lose Tea Party. If they don't, they lose Hispanic votes.

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    first of all, i don't agree on the 800k number. i think its totally ridiculous and a slap in the face.

    you telling me i personally know 20 or so of the only 800k in existence? thats like, 3% of the people i know. doesn't seem likely that a huge portion of these people would be right here in my town, people i grew up with and went to school with.

    the number is a lot bigger.
    Or your math skills suck. 20 out of 800,000 is no where NEAR 3%. It's not even in the ballpark of being in the vicinity. One percent would be 8,000, so three percent is 24,000, fool.

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    Or your math skills suck. 20 out of 800,000 is no where NEAR 3%. It's not even in the ballpark of being in the vicinity. One percent would be 8,000, so three percent is 24,000, fool.
    his side is not very bright

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    here ya go, wing nuts, right wing assholes, tea baggers, Repug Congresscritters got their pitchforks and torches out for

    IMPEACHMENT!

    No sooner had President Barack Obama announced his decision to suspend deportations of peaceful DREAMers than Republicans responded with calls for his impeachment.

    Twitter and a simple search revealed that a vast number of self-identified Republicans, Tea Party activists, and/or Romney supporters were calling for impeachment. Not Congressional action to undo the decision or to pass their own version of immigration reform -- but Congressional action to impeach the President of the United States for refusing to deport the noncitizen children of illegal immigrants.

    The blogoshpere was replete with calls for impeachment over President Obama's "illegal" action. Then one by one GOP lawmakers and Romney supporters came out with statements calling the president's decision "illegal" -- a dogwhistle to the impeachment crowd.

    http://readersupportednews.org/opini...eam-or-impeach

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    here ya go, wing nuts, right wing assholes, tea baggers, Repug Congresscritters got their pitchforks and torches out for

    IMPEACHMENT!

    No sooner had President Barack Obama announced his decision to suspend deportations of peaceful DREAMers than Republicans responded with calls for his impeachment.

    Twitter and a simple search revealed that a vast number of self-identified Republicans, Tea Party activists, and/or Romney supporters were calling for impeachment. Not Congressional action to undo the decision or to pass their own version of immigration reform -- but Congressional action to impeach the President of the United States for refusing to deport the noncitizen children of illegal immigrants.

    The blogoshpere was replete with calls for impeachment over President Obama's "illegal" action. Then one by one GOP lawmakers and Romney supporters came out with statements calling the president's decision "illegal" -- a dogwhistle to the impeachment crowd.

    http://readersupportednews.org/opini...eam-or-impeach
    Talk about a blatant, naked political move.

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    Or your math skills suck. 20 out of 800,000 is no where NEAR 3%. It's not even in the ballpark of being in the vicinity. One percent would be 8,000, so three percent is 24,000, fool.
    Apparently you can't read, and that's not my fault dumb .

    3% of the people that I PERSONALLY know. That would be wildly disproportionate to the supposed 800k out of 330 million citizens plus 20 million illegals (some estimates are 30 million)

    3% of 350 mil is 10.5 million

    i really doubt my personal experience is THAT skewed, considering i don't live in a border town or a high mexican area. ya'll in the older crowd just don't know how bad it is, since immigration has accelerated in my generation.

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    illegals didn't cause, won't worsen, the unemployment crisis, which is completely due to the Banksters' Great (Jobs) Depression.


    Immigrant Entrepreneurship On The Rise In US


    Immigrants are assuming a bigger role on Main Street, according to a new report from the Fiscal Policy Ins ute's Immigration Research Initiative.

    Immigrants now make up 18 percent of small-business owners in the United States, a six percent increase from 20 years ago.

    The report found that 37 percent of immigrant entrepreneurs own a restaurant, 49 percent own grocery stores and 54 percent own laundry and dry cleaning services.

    "With immigrants making up one in six of all small business owners, a climate that is hostile to immigrants is also a climate that is bad for business," said Frank Mauro, executive director of the Fiscal Policy Ins ute in a statement.

    The report highlights the fact that immigrant businesses are no longer concentrated near traditional entry points and have spread far beyond metropolitan areas. Additionally, the breadth of cultures and countries of origin has grown, though immigrants from the Middle East, Asia and Southern Europe have the highest rates of US business ownership.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...comm_ref=false

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    http://www.fiscalpolicy.org/immigran...I-20120614.pdf

    Just like all waves of immigrants in the past 200 years, the immigrants scrap hard to get a handhold.

    Small companies are job creators, while UCA and its greedy mgmt and capitalists are (US) job destroyers.
    IMMIGRANTS. you know, people from india and china who file the necessary paperwork and come here legally more often than not because it would be harder for them than simply border hopping to get in. you know, smarter people many times with educations.

    it isn't the illegal be@ners starting the businesses, it's abdul starting up some gas stations and Ching with his sushi restaurant

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    there are a lot of hispanic entrepreneurs around here. They are HUGE in lawn care and tree trimming.

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    there are a lot of hispanic entrepreneurs around here. They are HUGE in lawn care and tree trimming.
    Some are even legal I bet.

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    Some are even legal I bet.
    The boss MAYBE.

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    LOL...

    Exactly what I was thinking.

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    there are a lot of hispanic entrepreneurs around here. They are HUGE in lawn care and tree trimming.
    Some are even legal I bet.
    LOL...

    Exactly what I was thinking.
    If you need to understand why the Hispanics never warmed to the GOP, see above.

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    Total election year pandering. Nothing more.

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    well 6 women whom i know quite well will be benefiting greatly from this, as well as a handful of other acquaintances and people i know through them who all have college degrees and were waiting for the opportunity to use them. a school teacher, a nurse, a finance major, management major, and an aerospace engineer just to name a few.

    "this will only benefit cotton pickers and construction workers, nobody wanted those jobs anyway "

    just dumb. i hope none of you have college age kids.

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    well 6 women whom i know quite well will be benefiting greatly from this, as well as a handful of other acquaintances and people i know through them who all have college degrees and were waiting for the opportunity to use them. a school teacher, a nurse, a finance major, management major, and an aerospace engineer just to name a few.

    "this will only benefit cotton pickers and construction workers, nobody wanted those jobs anyway "

    just dumb. i hope none of you have college age kids.
    Don't you know Mexicans can only cut grass?

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