2012 NBA Finals, Game 3: Miami vs Oklahoma City presented by The Lord is Cruel

[DPG21920]

but what about the long list i quoted where you were whining about fluke mid range shooting that flat doesn't exist? I think it looks something like this:














you were wrong man, the heat have really taken that shot away and it's the reason they're up. the thunder aren't shooting fluky at all, they're in fact shooting below their season averages from outside.

Guy, why are you lying. I can point out several fluky long shots vs MIA. Just because they are hitting some, doesn't mean it's all fluky - I never said that. What I did say is they shot fluky against the Spurs and that if they didn't shoot like that vs Mia, they would struggle some. I had my doubts they could keep it up - and it's not just mia defense (though that's the largest contributor).

[Venti Quattro]

I can't say I'm not enjoying reading mavs>spurs and DPG21920 go back and forth.

[ElNono]

I can't say I'm not enjoying reading mavs>spurs and DPG21920 go back and forth.

I can....

[mavs>spurs]

Guy, why are you lying. I can point out several fluky long shots vs MIA. Just because they are hitting some, doesn't mean it's all fluky - I never said that. What I did say is they shot fluky against the Spurs and that if they didn't shoot like that vs Mia, they would struggle some. I had my doubts they could keep it up - and it's not just mia defense (though that's the largest contributor).

you've been complaining about their shooting all series.

OKC has to start missing some of these tough, long jumpers, don't they? It feels like you keep saying that, but they keep hitting. It's unreal. It's not just one superstar either. It's the entire team down to Fish.

Dude, it's unreal. It's not normal to hit at this type of elevated rate on rather difficult shots.

Except the part where I just showed that they have actually been shooting poorly. I'm just not sure what games you watch.

[DPG21920]

This all started bc one adult make read the wrong box score.

[mavs>spurs]

This all started bc one adult make read the wrong box score.

you pointed it out and tried to make a huge deal out of it because i've been pointing out your bs here lately. glancing at a wrong box score pales in comparison to this. you said the thunder were shooting fluky when in fact the opposite has been happening.

I just want to know what games you watch, that's all.

[Killakobe81]

DPG, is normally solid. But you would have better luck trying to get Kobe to admit he shoots to much than for DPG to ever admit he is wrong without a uva fight.

[DPG21920]

you pointed it out and tried to make a huge deal out of it because i've been pointing out your bs here lately. glancing at a wrong box score pales in comparison to this. you said the thunder were shooting fluky when in fact the opposite has been happening.

I just want to know what games you watch, that's all.

You got trolled then tried to get serious because you were hurt. You started by twisting my words and lying, then after getting ultra serious you finally did stat work (which I don't trust) to back up a pseudo argument you already made.

You also lost credibility because you still act like shooting 42% normally then jumping to 52% isn't somewhat fluky, yet shooting 38% from 42% normally is well below?

[mavs>spurs]

you're the one coming into every game thread crying about oklahoma's "flukey" outside shooting. i have the quotes, we've all seen them. it isn't just some "argument that i made up," you really said it and it was really false.

you don't like my stats? count em up yourself, here's the shot chart.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotch...meId=320612025

[mavs>spurs]

DPG, is normally solid. But you would have better luck trying to get Kobe to admit he shoots to much than for DPG to ever admit he is wrong without a uva fight.

i know and that's why i'm going to bed while dpg counts shots

[DPG21920]

OKC has hit fluky shots and you're obviously twisting my words again. I clearly acknowledged okc struggling to shoot which is why I said they're down 2-1.

Me, during the course of a game blog, saying " at that fluky shot" is much different than the picture you are trying to Microsoft Paint.

[DPG21920]

You also lost credibility because you still act like shooting 42% normally then jumping to 52% isn't somewhat fluky, yet shooting 38% from 42% normally is well below?

[mavs>spurs]

When I first posted the real numbers it was news to you and you acted surprised here.

If your number is correct (which I doubt), then it makes sense as to why they are down 2-1.

You're just trying to rewrite history at this point.

[DPG21920]

excuse me, i meant to say 10-33 tonight for .303

and 16/39 from that range in game 2 for .410

you just throw out there and hope it sticks, expecting no one to call you out on it


and yeah i know, i looked at the wrong boxscore earlier. i got ya.

This was wrong BTW. What is it with you and lying?

Game 3: 40%
Game 2: 46%
Game 1: 46%

http://www.hoopdata.com/boxscore.aspx?id=320617014
http://www.hoopdata.com/boxscore.aspx?id=320614025
http://www.hoopdata.com/boxscore.aspx?id=320612025

[DPG21920]

When I first posted the real numbers it was news to you and you acted surprised here.



You're just trying to rewrite history at this point.

I was surprised because it was a lie

[DPG21920]

Good, energetic start for the Heat. Rebounding a bit better and OKC really has shown who they are. They are getting the same looks they have all series - mid range jumpers mostly. If they hit like vs the Spurs they are unbeatable. If they hit like they normally do, they are still very dangerous but they need the free-throws to really dominate.

MIA seems willing to play the odds on the long twos - lets see if they can keep them off the line and off the glass.

This was wrong BTW. What is it with you and lying?

Game 3: 40%
Game 2: 46%
Game 1: 46%

http://www.hoopdata.com/boxscore.aspx?id=320617014

So they are shooting slightly better than their average (while still making some tough ones) and that really goes dead in line with my analysis above (that I made well before this argument).

Your argument is taking individual statements from a game blog coming after very specific moments and trying to pass that off as my analysis. You are lying. Again.

[DPG21920]

[mavs>spurs]

Huh? according to this:

http://www.hoopdata.com/boxscore.aspx?id=320617014

the thunder shot 6-15 from 16-23ft, and 4-18 from 3 for a grand total of 10/33 for all shots taken from 15+ feet

that is exactly what i said

[DPG21920]

No. We weren't talking 3 pointers. You know that damn well. I have always been talking about the "inefficient long two pointer" since the Spurs series. It's what Timvp's thread was based on and what I have been saying.

That is where the 42% for the season number comes from you d-head

Cue the "but, but, but..."

http://hoopdata.com/teamshotlocs.aspx

[mavs>spurs]

You're playing with the numbers.

Also, game 2 the reason they shot 46% was because they only attempted 13 shots from that range, as opposed to 26 from three point range and 29 at the rim. shots from 16-23 feet barely make up a tiny fraction of their total fg attempts, and here you are crying all game long about all these fluke long 2's that just keep going in

give it a rest already

[DPG21920]

quoting their 42% number which was only for the shot I described, then trying to lie your way into an argument. All the while reading the wrong box score.

Crassic.

[DPG21920]

You're playing with the numbers.

Also, game 2 the reason they shot 46% was because they only attempted 13 shots from that range, as opposed to 26 from three point range and 29 at the rim. shots from 16-23 feet barely make up a tiny fraction of their total fg attempts, and here you are crying all game long about all these fluke long 2's that just keep going in

give it a rest already

They shot 18 threes, not 26.

[DPG21920]

And I'll need to verify your numbers since you are prone to lying

You're a good dude tho...just ty at real life hoops and telling da truf

If this wasn't spot on I don't know what is.

DPG, right about det MS

[mavs>spurs]

No. We weren't talking 3 pointers

We were talking shots from 15ft+, if you meant something else you should have been more specific.

The Thunder are barely even shooting the long 2 in this series because Miami is defending it. 6/13 in game 1, 6/13 in game 2, and 6/15 tonight

Compare this to the spurs series:

game 1: 12-19
game 2: 6-18
game 3: 13-23
game 4: 10-19
game 5: 12-19
game 6: 6-14

The thunder took that shot more often, and hit at a much higher rate vs SA than they are vs miami. Yet you keep crying about the shot this series (even though they barely shoot it) claiming that the "hot shooting has continued, when will it stop " (even though they are hitting it at a much lower clip) and also said that miami's game plan is similar to the one the spurs employed??

That's laughable, i'm looking at the raw numbers. the heat are running them off that shot and making them hit it at a lower rate than the spurs did.

If they were taking the same amount of shots from that range, but making a much lower percentage sure you could call the spurs series an anomoly.

But combine that with the fact that they are taking less of them this series leads me to think that the heat are running them off that shot.

You need to let it go buddy.

[mavs>spurs]

You're playing with the numbers.

Also, game 2 the reason they shot 46% was because they only attempted 13 shots from that range, as opposed to 26 from three point range and 29 at the rim. shots from 16-23 feet barely make up a tiny fraction of their total fg attempts, and here you are crying all game long about all these fluke long 2's that just keep going in

give it a rest already

They shot 18 threes, not 26.

Huh? in game 2 they were 9-26

http://www.hoopdata.com/boxscore.aspx?id=320614025

dpg lied again