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    Exactly, what's next? Trying to turn different situations into something they're not to make this move look like blasphemy.
    Lol you really don't get it? for every one that got caught like her, millions more will continue piling over the border and will slip through the cracks, live here for years as many have done before them, and then eventually apply for work permits and amnesty stay.

    it's even more of an incentive to come illegally, now you can just wait a while then do it all legally.

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    AFAIK, it's no amnesty. None of these guys are getting residency or a path to citizenship.

    It's just a temporary band aid where they won't get deported, presumably, at least as long as this administration is in power...

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    they don't care about citizenship they just want to work, it's still a huge incentive

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    they don't care about citizenship they just want to work, it's still a huge incentive
    I'm not sure about that. I would say people that has lived here for 5-10+ years and want to stay would really like to have a path towards legality. This "policy" isn't it though. But then again, both parties talk a lot about "Immigration reform", but they never do about it.

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    Romney knocks 'stopgap' immigration order, won't say whether he'd overturn it

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1y7otygdT


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    dp

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    we are all stupid cattle.
    yep, and Repugs and "Christians" want to herd the kids into charter schools, aka right wing indoctrination centers, so they can dumb the kids down with anti-science, anti-Muslim, Biblical bull , because they know a populace as dumb as the US populace is easy prey upon and keep the 1% in eternal power. They sure as don't care about instilling critical thinking in the independent minds.

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    Even this blind squirrel realizes he has to capitulate to HUSSEIN's touch down buzzer beater, when he knows his team of insane assholes has lost to a superior player.

    Top GOP Pundit Bill Kristol Praises Obama Immigration Order As ‘The Right Thing To Do’


    KRISTOL: I think its a sensible policy. I think it would be much better if that were the law of the land, and I think the president’s pushing the edges of prosecutorial discretion in saying we’re not going to enforce a law in order to leave these people in the country. But I think it’s the right thing to do, actually.


    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...t-thing-to-do/

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    Romney Repeatedly Refuses To Say Whether He Would Undo New Obama Immigration Policy

    SCHIEFFER: “[W]ould you repeal [Obama's immigration] order if you became president?” …

    ROMNEY: “This is something Congress has been working on, and I thought we were about to see some proposals brought forward by Senator Marco Rubio and by Democrat senators, but the President jumped in and said I’m going to take this action … [H]e was president for the last three and a half years and did nothing on immigration. Two years he had a Democrat House and Senate, did nothing of a permanent or long-term basis. What I would do, is I’d make sure that by coming into office, I would work with Congress to put in place a long-term solution for the children of those that have come here illegally.” …

    SCHIEFFER: “But would you repeal this?” …

    ROMNEY: “[M]y anticipation is I’d come into office and say we need to get this done, on a long-term basis, not this kind of stop-gap measure. What the president did, he should have worked on this years ago, if he felt seriously about this he should have taken action when he had a Democrat House and Senate, but he didn’t. He saves these sort of things until four and a half months before the general election.” …

    In the Republican primaries, Romney’s position on immigration — and particuarly DREAM-eligible youth — was much clearer. He relentlessly attacked Gov. Rick Perry for passing a version of the DREAM Act in Texas. Romney also promised to veto the DREAM Act. His preferred solution for undo ented immigrants was to make their lives so miserable they would “self-deport.”

    In an interview on Friday, Kris Kobach, an immigration advisor to the Romney campaign, told ThinkProgress that the new Obama policy was “illegal.” Another Romney advisor told CNN that Romney’s position was “the same” as President Obama.

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...ration-policy/

    Gecko and his team gagging on HUSSEIN's hard, huge black .

    "he should have worked on this years ago".

    If immigration were truly important as policy, rather than as rabble-rousing, racist, vote-getter, the Repugs would have done something 2001-2008, but they did nothing effective.
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    yep, and Repugs and "Christians" want to herd the kids into charter schools, aka right wing indoctrination centers, so they can dumb the kids down with anti-science, anti-Muslim, Biblical bull , because they know a populace as dumb as the US populace is easy prey upon and keep the 1% in eternal power. They sure as don't care about instilling critical thinking in the independent minds.
    This post is rich in Vitamin I.

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    This post is rich in Vitamin I.
    This post by Boutons stalker is rich in Vitamin E(mpty)

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    lol @ stalker. Lighten up, Francis.

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    Obama's immigration move wins support in battleground states

    WASHINGTON — President Obama’s decision to extend administrative relief to an estimated 800,000 young illegal immigrants has won favor with Latino voters in key battleground states, according to a new poll.

    The Latino Decisions survey found that Obama’s move had wiped out an earlier “enthusiasm deficit” among Hispanic voters over the administration’s deportation policies. By contrast, the poll found that Latino voters were sharply opposed to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s call for illegal immigrants to “self-deport.”

    Voters in five states with significant portions of Latino voters — Florida, Colorado, Nevada, Virginia and Arizona — were asked about Obama’s new policy of halting deportations and offering temporary work permits to some illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. before they were 16, lived here for at least five years and have clean records.

    Forty-nine percent of the Latino voters surveyed said Obama’s move made them more enthusiastic about the president, compared with 14% who were less enthusiastic. Thirty-four percent said it would have no effect on their at ude toward Obama.

    That “enthusiasm advantage” of 35 percentage points compares with a 19-point deficit in a survey earlier this year, when Latino voters were asked about the high level of deportations of immigrants under the Obama administration.

    http://mobile.chicagotribune.com/p.p...%3D0%26DPL%3D3

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    I'm sure there are plenty of independents upgrading their at ude toward HUSSEIN after this profoundly HUMANITARIAN and SYMPATHETIC move because they are sick and tired of the Repug/racist/xenophobia haters hiding behind hard-core, punitive, sociopathic legalisms.

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    they don't care about citizenship they just want to work, it's still a huge incentive


    You clearly know nothing about "they".

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    I'm glad Sheriff Joe kept that six year old from taking m>s's job.

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    I'm glad Sheriff Joe kept that six year old from taking m>s's job.
    yup i'm glad all 15 of em got deported, those disgusting shameless people

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    I'm glad Sheriff Joe kept that six year old from taking m>s's job.
    That 6 year old would have gotten more college help at 6 than m>s tbh.

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    yup i'm glad all 15 of em got deported, those disgusting shameless people
    Kudos to Sheriff Joe for keeping the American dream American.

    and by American, I of course mean Middle North America.

    The South North America dream is to not get beheaded by the cartel.

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    yup i'm glad all 15 of em got deported, those disgusting shameless people
    Why are they disgusting and shameless?

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    I do not like immigration for the same reason that I do not like the Keynesian model for compounding growth ad infinitum and for the same reason that I do not like the notion of procreation as virtue.

    this notion that we can just keep on expanding forever should have ended over 100 years ago yet we keep on getting more and more people and more and more centralization of wealth and control. All immigration does is expand and dilute our side of that margin.

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    He? his aunt did all the work for her kids and hooked him and his sister up while she was at it.

    asshole.
    Yet, you know it can be done, and you just complain.

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    Obama's immigration move wins support in battleground states

    WASHINGTON — President Obama’s decision to extend administrative relief to an estimated 800,000 young illegal immigrants has won favor with Latino voters in key battleground states, according to a new poll.

    The Latino Decisions survey found that Obama’s move had wiped out an earlier “enthusiasm deficit” among Hispanic voters over the administration’s deportation policies. By contrast, the poll found that Latino voters were sharply opposed to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s call for illegal immigrants to “self-deport.”

    Voters in five states with significant portions of Latino voters — Florida, Colorado, Nevada, Virginia and Arizona — were asked about Obama’s new policy of halting deportations and offering temporary work permits to some illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. before they were 16, lived here for at least five years and have clean records.

    Forty-nine percent of the Latino voters surveyed said Obama’s move made them more enthusiastic about the president, compared with 14% who were less enthusiastic. Thirty-four percent said it would have no effect on their at ude toward Obama.

    That “enthusiasm advantage” of 35 percentage points compares with a 19-point deficit in a survey earlier this year, when Latino voters were asked about the high level of deportations of immigrants under the Obama administration.

    http://mobile.chicagotribune.com/p.p...%3D0%26DPL%3D3

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    I'm sure there are plenty of independents upgrading their at ude toward HUSSEIN after this profoundly HUMANITARIAN and SYMPATHETIC move because they are sick and tired of the Repug/racist/xenophobia haters hiding behind hard-core, punitive, sociopathic legalisms.
    Are you suprised this political stunt worked? I mean, who would say it's a good policy to deport young adults who came here not of their own free will and have attempted to make something of themselves by going to college or joining the military?

    I think the Republican counterpoint should be two-fold...

    1. Obama is stretching his executive authority, which is a common theme of his presidency.

    2. This shows his failure as a collaborative leader with his inability to influence real, comprehensive immigration reform.

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    "Obama is stretching his executive authority, which is a common theme of his presidency."

    was NO PROBLEM when dubya and head were doing it, why do Repugs object now?

    "collaborative"

    G M A F B. The Repugs don't collaborate with their enemies list. 100% obtructionist.

    eg, Obama gave away tons on ACA to the Repugs demands, and not one voted for it.

    Same with REPUG TARP.

    "collaborative"

    "stunt", but Repugs were all for the 2003 election year REPUG stunts of paying for, unfunded, deficit-deepening, seniors-pandering Prescription Drug coverage and Medicare Advantage.

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    "Obama is stretching his executive authority, which is a common theme of his presidency."

    was NO PROBLEM when dubya and head were doing it, why do Repugs object now?

    "collaborative"

    G M A F B. The Repugs don't collaborate with their enemies list. 100% obtructionist.

    eg, Obama gave away tons on ACA to the Repugs demands, and not one voted for it.

    Same with REPUG TARP.

    "collaborative"

    "stunt", but Repugs were all for the 2003 election year REPUG stunts of paying for, unfunded, deficit-deepening, seniors-pandering Prescription Drug coverage and Medicare Advantage.
    I'm not even going to counterpoint, because everything you said about Republicans is true and it's why they lost in 2008. But, this election won't be about Republicans...it'll be about Obama record of massive debt, ineffective economic stimulus, controversial healthcare law, and continual growth of government in size and influence.

    He may actually overcome all that, but the "blame Bush/republicans" talking point won't play this time around.

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    I think the Republican counterpoint should be two-fold...

    1. Obama is stretching his executive authority, which is a common theme of his presidency.

    2. This shows his failure as a collaborative leader with his inability to influence real, comprehensive immigration reform.
    The problem with these two are:

    1. The expansion of executive power was one of the main traits of the previous administration. Pretty hypocritical to start pointing fingers now that this administration is using it. Perhaps Yoo can write a new episode on unitary executive power denouncing what he was defending just 4 years ago.

    2. The DREAM act was re-introduced in 2009, 2010 (where it was heavily modified to appease to Republican demands, yet it was still filibustered) and 2011, where, again, Republicans withdrew their votes.

    It's obvious that even if Republicans agree with immigration reform, they would rather not pass it on a Democrat administration, where it can be seen as a victory or triumph for the administration.

    As scott pointed out earlier in the thread:

    What's the GOP platform on immigration these days?

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