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  1. #26
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    Wade easily. I'm a big Iverson fan, but I never saw him have a series like Wade against Detroit in 06.

    puhlease...your about as inept at judging basketball as you are stroking kitty

    listen...because he was a real AI was denied the privileges that Wade has...now I shouldn't post this because it's going to only encourage BR and his ing tired shtick..

    this is the realest link ever of how refs openly cheated Iverson and favored my Kobe..but Kobe didn't need them to win...Just like MJ didn't even though they cheated for MJ as well

    http://www.boobootv.com/2009/12/07/r...to-win-20-min/

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    Didn't Wade catch the flu before the finals? IMO that changed the series as he wasn't 100% in the first two games. I think they could've split and come back to Miami 1-1.

    People underestimate that Heat squad due to the phantom whistles. They had a great coach and their role players were playing lights out. I don't think you beat a Pistons squad (and their defense) by not being legit. Their (Pistons) defense went south after that season.
    That 2005-2006 Piston team was one of the most overrated teams in NBA history. They played way over their heads in the regular season. Even when they went 3-1 vs Miami in the regular season (that 1 win coming off Wade going ape in the 4th and hitting the game winner while being down 13 in the 4th), I knew Miami would handle them pretty easily in a series. The Mavs had a very good team that year. That was the only true legit team Miami faced.

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    Wade. Only and idiot would choose that chucker.

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    Didn't Wade catch the flu before the finals? IMO that changed the series as he wasn't 100% in the first two games. I think they could've split and come back to Miami 1-1.

    People underestimate that Heat squad due to the phantom whistles. They had a great coach and their role players were playing lights out. I don't think you beat a Pistons squad (and their defense) by not being legit. Their (Pistons) defense went south after that season.
    Truth is the defense had already started to go south that season with Flip Saunders replacing Larry Brown that year. And even with Ben Wallace signing with the Bulls after 2006, the Pistons defense actually didn't decline all that much statistically from 2005-06 to 2006-07. I remember Pistons players even saying that they didn't put any practice time into defense under Flip Saunders, so they were basically playing defense how they remembered and were coached by Larry Brown in Flip Saunders first few seasons, with some wrinkles of some zone defense.

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    Wade's a better all around player because of size and defense. But in his peak, Iverson was just a complete gangsta on the court.

    If we're going by peak as in one or two seasons, I'd go with Iverson. If we're going by peak as in best stretch of their careers no matter how short or long, Wade's 1 or so month run in the 2006 playoffs over those 20 or so games is probably historically hard to top by anyone named other than Michael Jordan or Wilt Chamberlain. If we go by a stretch of one playoff run, it's Wade.
    Wade shot more FTAs in 2006 then MJ ever did? Think about that for a moment... His 250 FTAs are more than any non-big man in NBA history. In other words - he was aided in his historic 2006 playoff run. 97 FTAs in a 6-game Finals is unheard of for a guard. That's 16 FTAs/game. Give AI those extra freebies and I'll guarantee you he averages over 45.

    Wade is not as good as people think. He's stronger than most perimeter players, so with the current NBA rules his numbers are inflated tbh.

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    Both are better than Kobe, definitely.

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    Wade shot more FTAs in 2006 then MJ ever did? Think about that for a moment... His 250 FTAs are more than any non-big man in NBA history. In other words - he was aided in his historic 2006 playoff run. 97 FTAs in a 6-game Finals is unheard of for a guard. That's 16 FTAs/game. Give AI those extra freebies and I'll guarantee you he averages over 45.

    Wade is not as good as people think. He's stronger than most perimeter players, so with the current NBA rules his numbers are inflated tbh.
    Wade in the 2006 playoffs averaged 10.9 FTA per game.

    Iverson in the 2001 playoffs averaged 9.5 FTA per game.

    Now granted the last two NBA Finals games were ridiculous. But that's just those two games. And those two games don't negate what he did the rest of those playoffs.

    Wade isn't as good as some people think now. Back in 2006, even if you take into consideration the free throw debacles of those last two Finals games, Wade was as good a player as I've seen in the playoffs. And I'm old enough to have watched every Michael Jordan championship run in the 90s.

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    Crofl classic Lkr thread...

    Wade easily and not just because that Pistons series but his career numbers all around. Wade is more efficient, a much better defender, more versatile and has a championship. People remember the Dallas series more because it was the finals but Wade has had monster series against some of the top defenses in the league.
    Wade is more efficient at shooting layups and dunking. When you miss a shot while getting fouled, they don't count the miss. I wish they did though (you'll see why later ). On the surface you see Wade going off for 43 points against the Mavs in the 2006 Finals. The box score shows him going 11-28 to get it. Not that bad right? Then you see he also went 21-25 from the charity stripe. So, we already know he chucked at least 28 shots and still got his Stern mandated 25 FTAs. For the times he were gifted 25 freebies, how many of them were actually missed shot attempts? Let's say 12 were - since you get get 2 FTAs per shot attempt that you were fouled against. That really means he shot a ty 11/40 to get his 43 points.

    ^Very "AI" like if you ask me.

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    Wade in the 2006 playoffs averaged 10.9 FTA per game.

    Iverson in the 2001 playoffs averaged 9.5 FTA per game.

    Now granted the last two NBA Finals games were ridiculous. But that's just those two games. And those two games don't negate what he did the rest of those playoffs.

    Wade isn't as good as some people think now. Back in 2006, even if you take into consideration the free throw debacles of those last two Finals games, Wade was as good a player as I've seen in the playoffs. And I'm old enough to have watched every Michael Jordan championship run in the 90s.
    The whole Finals were ridiculous. He shot less than 10 FTAs once. You show 10.9 attempts - that's misleading. NBA.com shows me he had 250 FTAs during those playoffs. Only Shaq had more - ever. That means he must have been even better than MJ ever was in a single playoff series. You really think Wade was on MJ's level? Wow Jammie. Just wow.

    Wade averaged 16 FTAs in the Finals. That's insane. He wasn't that good, was he? I think not.
    Last edited by LkrFan; 06-19-2012 at 03:51 PM.

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    Wade

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    Game 4 ECF 2006. I believe that was in the 3rd quarter and it gave Miami the lead for good.

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    We would NEVER see AI get wheel-chaired off with a shoulder injury. By that standard, he is already better than Wade.
    This

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    As for the thread, give me prime Wade over AI. More versatile, better defender, better shotblocker, better rebounder, better leader etc etc. That run in 2006 was something else especially late in the games.

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    AI was no slouch during the playoffs either... don't forget he dropped 30 in his first playoff game and still holds the record dropping 48 in his very first NBA Finals game...
    This. I was nervous as when Fish and Lue were checking him in the Finals tbh.

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    This. I was nervous as when Fish and Lue were checking him in the Finals tbh.
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    falling down while guarding AI
    walked over by Iverson

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    HH and Acehole on the same thread at the same time.

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    Lue
    falling down while guarding AI
    walked over by Iverson

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    As for the thread, give me prime Wade over AI. More versatile, better defender, better shotblocker, better rebounder, better leader etc etc. That run in 2006 was something else especially late in the games.
    You crackas are insane....you really believe a overhyped 2006 Heat team could actually with a 2001 prime Kobe and Shaq Laker squad....give AI credit...what he did in a losing effort to one of the most Dominant teams in NBA history is far more impressive than Wade beating a pussy Mavs team with a bunch of free throws..

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    4x scoring champion and two other seasons scoring 30+ per game...pretty damn impressive for a guy who probably wasn't even 6'.

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    The whole Finals were ridiculous. He shot less than 10 FTAs once. You show 10.9 attempts - that's misleading. NBA.com shows me he had 250 FTAs during those playoffs. Only Shaq had more - ever. That means he must have been even better than MJ ever was in a single playoff series. You really think Wade was on MJ's level? Wow Jammie. Just wow.

    Wade averaged 16 FTAs in the Finals. That's insane. He wasn't that good, was he? I think not.
    With idiotic takes like this it's no wonder you're the laughing stock of ST. You use that logic on Wade and the same goes for A.I. You have no argument here, not stats or even just simple logic. Wade is better on both sides and far better on the defensive. Wade was amazing since his rookie year, a series against the top seeded Pacers most people forget.

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    Please love my Wade

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    Majority here disagree with you, great thread.

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    Majority here disagree with you, great thread.
    I guess that settles it then. Wade, although aided by over 250 FTAs, had a better playoff run than Wilt, MJ, Bird, Magic, KAJ, Mailman, Barkley, Ewing, and every other legend. What a stud!

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    People voting for AI is just the nostalgia talking. Everyone liked rooting for the little guy because he was an underdog and played with a lot of heart, but Wade is miles ahead in defense and efficiency it really isn't even very close.

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    I guess that settles it then. Wade, although aided by over 250 FTAs, had a better playoff run than Wilt, MJ, Bird, Magic, KAJ, Mailman, Barkley, Ewing, and every other legend. What a stud!
    Reading comprehension would do wonders for you...

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