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It's all about the cover up. Nixon wouldn't have been impeached over Watergate if it hadn't been for the cover up.
It's all about the cover up. Nixon wouldn't have been impeached over Watergate if it hadn't been for the cover up.
I see they got their talking points from the White House...The real fast and furious agenda exposed...
Having an excuse to strengthen gun laws.But Representative Carolyn Maloney, Democrat of New York, said the investigation had degenerated into a “political witch hunt,” while a fellow Democrat, Representative Gerald E. Connolly of Virginia, called the proceeding a “kangaroo court,” saying it was designed to result in a contempt citation from the start as a way to get at Mr. Obama. They and other Democrats complained that the panel was ignoring its mission of coming up with reforms, like finding ways to strengthen laws to combat gun trafficking along the Southwestern border.
It's all about the election. You could've had a special prosecutor investigating this for at least a year now, but then Issa would have had to stay quiet...
read what you want to read
They have been asking for the do ents for over a year now.
It's right there in black and white. They are calling for strengthened gun laws.
There could be a cover up. Or this could just be Obama wanting to try and look tough, given his history of rolling over on issues. Maybe we'll get to the bottom of it one day, but my gut says the political theater is all that anyone is really interested in.
He doesn't look tough, he looks guilty.
To anyone that is objective. From CNN
If they would prove he had nothing to hide then why won't they release them?In a letter to Issa after the Tuesday meeting, Cole reiterated Holder's position that the do ents would show Holder had nothing to hide about his role in Fast and Furious.
The do ents being requested have nothing to do with the original investigation or prosecutions....they concern internal Justice Department communications about the February 4th letter that swore to Congress that no guns had walked...
Not too happy bout this in Baltimore,tbh.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opi...,2950299.story
And they've been handed do ents, they're just not pleased with them.
This investigation would obviously have a lot more credibility if the investigation would be conducted by a independent investigator. That's what special prosecutors are for.
Whenever Issa is done milking political points and sending bravado letters (CC'ing them to the media), he should formally request a special prosecutor. We've had one to investigate a blow job in the Oval office. I would think getting one to investigate gun trafficking allegations would be a no brainer.
They're calling to "strengthen laws to combat gun trafficking along the Southwestern border". Sounds like a request to strengthen laws against gun trafficking to me.
BTW, I'm not saying there's no wrongdoing or that Holder/Barry/this administration is without blame/guilt. IMO, the problem here is that the accusers are far and away from being "independent". They've a lot of political points to gain by stretching this.
For the most part, accusers usually are in political matters.
To those who don't like him, sure. But if this is just a political maneuver to look tough (and I'm not saying it is or isn't) then that group of people isn't who he's trying to look tough for.
It's already a felony in the US and Mexico. They aren't talking about adding 5 more year to the potential sentence as a deterrent...
Be intellectually honest...they are talking about restricting trafficking by restricting gun sales.
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There's allegedly criminal conduct here... you would think a proper, independent investigation would trump political points...
And who is going to request that? The Democratic leadership?
The Republican leadership?
lol
Where do you read that?It's already a felony in the US and Mexico. They aren't talking about adding 5 more year to the potential sentence as a deterrent...
Be intellectually honest...they are talking about restricting gun sales.
You're just jumping to conclusions. Not to mention that there's no way anything that has to do with gun control laws passes Congress right now. You can safely remove your tinfoil hat for now
Well, this committee has the power to request just that, and Issa has hinted towards using that power. As I said earlier, they got one to investigate a blow job in the Oval office, I have a hard time thinking they wouldn't get one to investigate alleged criminal gun trafficking...
The (rhetorical) question is: What's taking so long?
You certainly are gullible. It's not tin foil hat stuff to suggest a connection between F&F and the administrations desire to use Mexican Cartel violence as an excuse to strengthen US gun laws.Where do you read that?
You're just jumping to conclusions. Not to mention that there's no way anything that has to do with gun control laws passes Congress right now. You can safely remove your tinfoil hat for now
If they had the do ents they requested they would know if they needed an independent council or not. If Holder won't give them to congress he wouldn't give them to an independent council either.
Dude is crooked as even by politician standards
You've yet to point to any "strengthened gun laws" proposals of any kind that developed through this. So far, it's all in your head.
It's ok, you can breathe, nobody is taking your guns away.
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