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6000, out of 80,000 requested is the tally, I believe.
Holder has NOT given them the do ents they requested. It seems like everyone but you knows that.
6000, out of 80,000 requested is the tally, I believe.
Wonder what Kenneth Starr is doing these days?
Btw, his brother Jerry is my Dad's barber.
Issa was apparently convinced he needed a special prosecutor at least as far back as Sept last year.
What's the holdup?
At which point the "coverup" allegations can actually be taken seriously, since there would be no room for "biased/political" interpretations. Maybe we'll get there once the dog and pony show is over.
You live under a ing rock? Holder is on record wanting to reinstate the assault rifle ban.
Apparently Teysha knows more than you do.
Apparently we ALL know more than YOU do.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story...1#.T-Ih-LW0x8E
The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.
"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reins ute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.
Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border.
"I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.
Mexican government officials have complained that the availability of sophisticated guns from the United States have emboldened drug traffickers to fight over access routes into the U.S.
A State Department travel warning issued Feb. 20, 2009, reflected government concerns about the violence.
"Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades," the warning said. "Large firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico, but most recently in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez."
At the news conference today, Holder described his discussions with his Mexican counterpart about the recent e in violence.
"I met yesterday with Attorney General Medina Mora of Mexico, and we discussed the unprecedented levels of violence his country is facing because of their enforcement efforts," he said.
Holder declined to offer any time frame for the reimplementation of the assault weapons ban, however.
"It's something, as I said, that the president talked about during the campaign," he said. "There are obviously a number of things that are -- that have been taking up a substantial amount of his time, and so, I'm not sure exactly what the sequencing will be."
In a brief interview with ABC News, Wayne LaPierre, president of the National Rifle Association, said, "I think there are a lot of Democrats on Capitol Hill cringing at Eric Holder's comments right now."
During his confirmation hearing, Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee about other gun control measures the Obama administration may consider.
"I think closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent, would be something that would be permitted under er," Holder said, referring to the Supreme Court ruling in Washington, D.C. v. er, which asserted the Second Amendment as an individual's right to own a weapon.
The Assault Weapons Ban signed into law by President Clinton in 1994 banned 19 types of semi-automatic military-style guns and ammunition clips with more than 10 rounds.
"A semi-automatic is a quintessential self-defense firearm owned by American citizens in this country," LaPierre said. "I think it is clearly covered under er and it's clearly, I think, protected by the Cons ution."
I'll take that as "No, I don't know any strengthened gun laws proposals of any kind that developed through this. It's all in my head".
There's a lot of supporters of strengthened gun control in Congress. Bottom line is Holder can't do anything without a law. And even in the event he has control of Congress (which he doesn't), he wouldn't need to smuggle guns to get that done.
It's ok, your guns are not going anywhere.
So Holder did deliver some do ents to the commission, but not all the ones the commission wanted
Why wasn't the Assault Weapon ban re-ins uted when the Dems controlled Congress too? And you're stressing the ban can come back now that the GOP runs the House?
ZOMG! Some Dems are for gun control! Did you just found that out?
7.5% of the requested do ents is hardly a compelling response tbh.So Holder did deliver some do ents to the commission, but not all the ones the commission wanted
dumbassSo Holder did deliver some do ents to the commission, but not all the ones the commission wanted
Why wasn't the Assault Weapon ban re-ins uted when the Dems controlled Congress too? And you're stressing the ban can come back now that the GOP runs the House?
you made the claim that no one had proposed strengthening gun laws and I just handed you your ass.
I think Obama miscalculated on the gun law thing...he didn't want to rile people up going into the 2010 elections and figured he could get it done later...he wasn't planning on losing congress.
this is the problem with letting in so many foreigners, you didn't grow up american and don't value your right to own a firearm nor understand the implicatons. a country full of voters like you is dangerous.ZOMG! Some Dems are for gun control! Did you just found that out?
The most re ed ing post I've read. Congrats.
The Congressional commission that subpoenaed Karl Rove was a "kangaroo court" (per red team), but this one that has shown no interest in actually launching an independent investigation despite claiming they have enough to do so should be considered "fair", "balanced" or anything like that?
Of course they're not going to get more do ents when then turn around and milk the do ents for political points.
@ UTA
I think you beat out Wild Cobra and boutons. That takes determination and effort.
Notice I'm not making any reference to anything but the present. Note that I was not supporting the Rove fiasco in FWDT's thread. Not sure why you need to pull context into this when it's not really required.The Congressional commission that subpoenaed Karl Rove was a "kangaroo court" (per red team), but this one that has shown no interest in actually launching an independent investigation despite claiming they have enough to do so should be considered "fair", "balanced" or anything like that?
Of course they're not going to get more do ents when then turn around and milk the do ents for political points.
When a congressional oversight committee requests do ents, which is certainly within their purview, do ents need to be presented regardless of whether or not you're wearing red or blue.
dumbass, you posted an article from 2009. Dems wanting all sorts of gun control isn't new. Again, what strengthening gun laws proposals were made due to this? Why didn't he get that passed in 2009?
If Barry doesn't control Congress, what are you stressing about???
Ever had to abandon a plan because the wheels fell off? Agent Terry's murder was the wheels flying off.
That's why Issa's committee is interested in all communications from the time of the murder forward.
Anyone remember Obama standing in El Paso a couple of years ago and grossly overstating the number of US weapons responsible for Mexican crimes? Some have suggested that speech and Operation F&F were precursors to a more aggressive gun control policy initiative.
Agent Terry getting himself murdered drew unwanted attention to the administration's gun-running activities. They've stonewalled a legitimate Congressional committee ever since.
I think Chuck Grassley asked the most revealing question of the day - about five minutes after Obama asserted Executive Privilege. If the White House wasn't involved and had no knowledge of Fast and Furious, over what is he asserting privilege?
Time for the age-old question, what did the President know and when did he know it?
I'm pulling context because the OP has played the blue card on this topic before quite at will, when I pointed out that this is way past blue/red. I wasn't alluding to anything specific you said.
I don't disagree with this, and thus the reason I said it's a ty decision. But we also need to recognize that political games are being played here, especially on an election year.
Why? I'm not for gun control.
Political games are irrelevant. What is relevant is that do ents were requested and they were not delivered then hidden behind a cloak of executive privilege.
Cool story. Unfortunately this investigation will be clouded with political gamesmanship until Issa decides that the truth is more important than his party, and calls for a special prosecutor.Ever had to abandon a plan because the wheels fell off? Agent Terry's murder was the wheels flying off.
Do ents requested. Holder did not comply. Not very cloudy.
I assume you realize that this investigation concerns things that the justice department was doing in 2009? The article was totally appropriate and even gives context to my assertion that the administration intentionally let guns walk so they would be used to commit crimes in Mexico and justify reintroducing the assault rifle ban.dumbass, you posted an article from 2009. Dems wanting all sorts of gun control isn't new. Again, what strengthening gun laws proposals were made due to this? Why didn't he get that passed in 2009?
If Barry doesn't control Congress, what are you stressing about???
In Holders own words, the Mexican gun violence was adequate reason to reimpose the ban.
Like Yonivore said, When agent Terry got killed and it leaked that one of their walked guns was there it blew their plan up.
The only reason there was a congressional inquiry is that the mortified lower level ATF agents went directly to congress and spilled their guts on the gun walking.
Even after that Holder tried to obstruct the congressional investigation.
On February 4th, 2011 Holder was still claiming (and I quote)
"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives makes every effort to interdict weapons that have been purchased illegally and prevent their transportation to Mexico."
Even a smurf like you should know THAT was a blatant lie.
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