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yes we got screwed but a bit overboard on the conspiracy theory.
The NBA got the series it wanted and the outcome it wanted even if it finally could not pull a rabbit out and skew it to 7 games or some like that.
Re this "artificially induced" finals, I am sure a lot watched and some even cared, that the Heat destroyed the Thunder.
Meanwhile, in all honestly, by far the two best and complete teams (the Bulls and Spurs) were home due to injuries or spurrious officiating at key moments and count the fans of the Celtics, Lakers and Mavs as also rightfully pissed off that their teams simply count not stand in the way of a dream match to end a shortened season. It iwll be peculiar for sure, that for some reason this season unlike the 99 season will not have an * attached to it; but one should be and doubled down as **2012 champs, for in reality the Heat are still a beatable team with no depth and poor skill at at least two positions, but whom somehow got the games called the way they needed for their superstars and of course "redeemed themselves" after last years seemingly equally scripted defeat where the NBA Gods placated Cuban finally.
Therefore, to get in step with what the Commish and the NBA Gods want many of you will coronate the King and revive his countdown to 7. You will surely pray and hope that Howard gets what the he really wants. You even will hope D. Williams goes to the Lakers or some such crap as that.
A few of you wil surely also hope that things will work out well for the Lottery lucky (or enhanced) Hornets who went from being owned by the NBA to a tax write off for a car salesman.
However, count me out of really caring for the NBA so much anymore.
For as my 14 y/o said, Dad if they are not going to even give them a chance with the calls why the should we watch or even care anymore? One should not and I cannot - so out for at least a long, long time.
yes we got screwed but a bit overboard on the conspiracy theory.
As a fellow Spurs fan I know your frustrated, but if the Spurs would have excuted and played liked that had been( I.E. our youngs) we wouldn't be having this conversation. simple fact, the Spurs did NOT make shots when we needed to and could not stop OKC. OKC got HOT in the Spurs' series, and hit every shot as well. they hit a wall in the finals just like the Spurs did.
The Spurs were the 5th best team. Four teams would have beaten the Spurs in the playoffs had all the teams been healthy.
The Spurs were the 3rd best team.. best team won
If you think the lakers or celtics were ahead of the spurs this year, then you're one stupid .
a lot of butthurtedness
i'm with rummpd but its easy to get confused on what my views are about the NBA vs being a butthurt spurs fan..
could the spurs still have played better and won against OKC? yes.. but we didn't because the thunder were just that darn good.. however.. i'm not gonna turn a blind eye to the blatant horrible officiating like a lot of people are. It's not like these are amateur 1st time refs.. they've been doing their jobs at a pro level for a decade at the least.. and the calls they make/miss just behooves me..
call it conspiracy theory if you will but i believe the issue goes beyond the refs. the NBA to me is not a sport anymore but more of a business now. it's more about entertainment and market value over the actual game itself. So what i've learned to do is take it as that.. entertainment.
I'll still watch it but.. this time I'll have an easier time with it knowing that it's not real and just being entertained by the cute storylines and drama
LOL at the two best teams by FAR! If the Spurs were far better than the Thunder they don't get down big at home in a game 5 to begin with! They needed that game and blew it. Bulls were very good yes, but they were last year too and Heat put Lebron on Rose and they crushed them 4-1. Thunder played better than the Spurs, period. Some calls were horrid yes, but once again why do you get down so big and dig that hole in the first half if you are that good? Answer that.
You're a grown adult and apparently a successful professional. Maybe you should grow up?
I c wut u did thar.
As has been said before, the Thunder won the series and the Spurs lost the series. Harden and Durant made the big time contested shots, and took over games when they needed to. However it would be ignorant to say that officiating didn't have an effect on the series. It wasn't so insurmountable that the Spurs playing to the level they should have been playing at wouldn't have been able to overcome it, but it was too much once they stopped getting contributions from their bench
Harden hitting a bunch of fluky and/or clutch shots is probably the difference between the Spurs and Thunder in 2012, tbh.
no, just no, stfu
He did grow up. He opened his eyes. Perhaps you should read Plato's Myth of the Cave and then you too might understand.
The outcome was similar vs the Suns in 2010, vs the Grizzlies in 2011 and now vs the Thunder, so it cant be explained by lucky shots. Neither by a conspiracy. What the Spurs lack is a good defense tbh. Teams with elite offense can make deep playoffs runs, but seldom win championships without elite defense.
Wow, you sure told me. No doubt the Platonic Form of the Spurs really did win the Platonic Form of the 2012 NBA le, and it's only on the poor reflection of these forms we see on the cave wall where we lost.
Except I suspect you didn't actually mean to discuss the nature of Forms, just the surface bit about the shadows and the fire. BTW, if that's where you were going, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" is way less pretentious, IMO.
If you think the NBA is rigged, then the Spurs haven't won any les, and all those great games we thought we saw en route to our les were just staged action on the order of pro wrestling. Because the whole "our les are real, but other teams' les are bogus" bull ? That dog won't hunt. And if you think it's all rigged, why did you wait until it was the Spurs that lost to start whining about it? Why not whine about the way it was rigged against the Sixers, or the Mavs, or the Clippers, or the Jazz? Why not whine about how the Suns were robbed in 2007? Nobody starts whining about how the league is rigged until they're looking for an excuse for why their own team lost.
Bottom line: if you thing the NBA is rigged, what the are you doing here? Go watch some sport you don't think is rigged. Or go play a sport. Or go referee a sport, so you can keep watch over its sanc y. What the is the point of being a fan of a team in a rigged league? Piss off.
Or grow up, admit you're being a whiner, and get the over it.
The Spurs would've lost to the Heat in the Finals, anyway, so it.
I'm not going to say that the league is rigged, because I'm fairly sure it isn't. That said I do think it is a bit slanted, any team can win any given game, but with trade approvals, and pointed instructions to refs calling games the league can do quite a bit to make it an uphill battle for smaller teams and a downhill run for large markets and promoted nationwide favorites. I'm not even completely certain how much is actively an agenda by the league so much as it would make alot of fans happy and thus be good for the sport if we allowed this so.....
not overboard. NBA = WWE on hardwood.
why would it be so hard to imagine this? Its a PROFIT game. And the NBA wants to stay relevant or alive.
i used to believe this in 2008. No its RIGGED. Im fairly sure of it.
Its partially WWE. Its not totally 100%. Its not a hollywood movie but its pretty damn close to it. If profit werent in the equation there is no way I could come to that conclusion.
Spurs often times have bad games and they usually win them. But you can't beat the Stern lead ZEBRAS.
Bulls?
No other sport has the match so dictated by the refs. The flow of the game, the speed, the physicality....all dictated by the refs....and for that reason alone you can never claim that basketball is a sport.
From now on, I'm going to keep watching the Spurs but watch games with a grain of salt....which is to say that I will watch knowing at any point the refs can decide the outcome....and just come to terms with the truth: The NBA is entertainment, not sport.
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