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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    Of course

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    Veteran dbreiden83080's Avatar
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    He is locked in for two more seasons and would be nearly impossible to trade because of his salary, and his skills are clearly in decline, so expecting him to be the team's catalyst is wishful thinking

    Kobe is one of the best players in NBA history and they won 5 les with him.. You ride it out until he has nothing left. Kobe just had a of a season.. I didn't hear anyone yelling for Magic to leave after Jordan kicked his teams ass in 1991.. Guys like Kobe and Duncan should be allowed to stay until they are ready to retire, not shoved out the door..

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    I'm not going to open the article and guess correctly that it was written by Plaschke or Simers.

    Please somebody screenshot the article author to confirm/debunk.

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    He is locked in for two more seasons and would be nearly impossible to trade because of his salary, and his skills are clearly in decline, so expecting him to be the team's catalyst is wishful thinking

    Kobe is one of the best players in NBA history and they won 5 les with him.. You ride it out until he has nothing left. Kobe just had a of a season.. I didn't hear anyone yelling for Magic to leave after Jordan kicked his teams ass in 1991.. Guys like Kobe and Duncan should be allowed to stay until they are ready to retire, not shoved out the door..

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    I'm not going to open the article and guess that it was written by Plaschke or Simers.

    Please somebody screenshot the article author to confirm/debunk.
    Simers


    And he is right

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    Yeah build around Bynum..

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    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    Simers

    And he is right
    Simers is a paid hack who deserves to die a slow and painful death. I never, ever read his or Plashcke's articles in the LAT.

    Kobe is the problem? Jim Buss is the bigger problem. Why he would hire Mike Brown and center his campaign around Andrew Bynum still infuriates me.

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    kobe has a negative impact at this point imo, and his teammates dont dont like him. dude's right no matter how hard kobe fan refuses to let go.

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    kobe has a negative impact at this point imo, and his teammates dont dont like him. dude's right no matter how hard kobe fan refuses to let go.
    Dirk has a negative impact too, tbh. He's too nazi.

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    Bynum acts like a baby. I have great respect for Kobe's past accomplishments but he is in decline IMO and about to really fall off a cliff soon as 34-35 is when it becomes noticeable that a Superstar has really taken a dive - unless of course you are Steve Nash who drinks virgin's blood to stay young.

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    just being truthful here bro if its too much to handle there's the exit

    bryant is a net drag at this point his true shooting % and usage rates were ridiculous this year

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    I agree that Kobe has been shooting a lot this year and his usage rate is crazy, but it's largely because of Mike Brown's terrible offensive schemes. They always waste the shot clock and then give the ball to Kobe to bail them out when there's no shot available.

    It doesn't help that Bynum and Gasol are being fronted easily in the post.

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    It's about time someone addressed the "elephant in the room". I know Fakers fans don't want to hear this or even admit it, but the writer is correct. Kobe is the issue.

    The Fakers problems are not much different than that of the Spurs or Mavs. They've got a major, dominant superstar player, who is now slowly starting his descent in production. The difference with the Fakers is Bryant, unlike Duncan or Nowitzki, is simply not willing to share the stage, spotlight or shots with his teammates. For whatever reason, he simply doesn't trust them very much - no matter who they are. Whenever he has, they've won big.

    It doesn't matter who the coach is or what players they have surrounding him. Kobe has been simply unwilling or unable to alter his game in order to offset his own decline and help make the team more balanced and effective. And it's hurt the Fakers tremendously.

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    It doesn't make a tbh, because Kobe will be gifted the All NBA team again, the all defensive team, the All Star game, everything else a player can be gifted without needing to win a game to do it.

    All that and the money.

    And you thought the chick in Colorado got split open.

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    It's about time someone addressed the "elephant in the room". I know Fakers fans don't want to hear this or even admit it, but the writer is correct. Kobe is the issue.

    The Fakers problems are not much different than that of the Spurs or Mavs. They've got a major, dominant superstar player, who is now slowly starting his descent in production. The difference with the Fakers is Bryant, unlike Duncan or Nowitzki, is simply not willing to share the stage, spotlight or shots with his teammates. For whatever reason, he simply doesn't trust them very much - no matter who they are. Whenever he has, they've won big.

    It doesn't matter who the coach is or what players they have surrounding him. Kobe has been simply unwilling or unable to alter his game in order to offset his own decline and help make the team more balanced and effective. And it's hurt the Fakers tremendously.
    You are correct, he doesn't trust them, and that's because, at almost any given juncture, he's only just met them. They wholesale the team every year, even championship years, and Kobe ends up playing with new people again except for a couple regulars.

    So Kobe knows the score, that he's playing for a corporation who would stab him in the back in a heartbeat if it meant they make one more dollar than they would otherwise. He knows he's got them by the short and curly hairs, and he's turned winning focus to himself instead of the Lakers. If he is successful, he wins, period. the Lakers, teammates, the NBA. It's about Kobe getting his. That's how he will be remembered.

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    BTW, the author should know he's impossible to trade because he has a no-trade clause... besides his contract, he would need to agree to be shipped...

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    Quoting Simers on the Lakers player I refuse to speak on, is akin to quoting Skip Bayless on LeBron.

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    Quoting Simers on the Lakers player I refuse to speak on, is akin to quoting Skip Bayless on LeBron.
    ask me then i know more than the both of them and i'll still say the same thing you confirmed kobist

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    Simers burned a major bridge with Kobe 8 years ago (Shaq's last year with the Lakers). Notice no quotes from Kobe in this article.

    Now, I'm not here to dispute what he wrote here because a lot of what he wrote is spot on. Because of Kobe's behemoth contract we can't really sign up some quality depth players. However his FG% is two sided. On one hand, Kobe's teammates (even when Shaq played) would pass him the ball late in the shot clock looking for him to bail them out. OTOH, Kobe's ultra-confidence that he can make damn near any shot is to the Lakers' detriment when he misses. How many successful fastbreak run outs have there been after a missed 25 foot bomb? Teams would play his miss (or others') and outrun our 7-footers or other plethora of Laker TOSBs for a million fast break points.

    Kobe needs to recognize that we have advantages other teams don't have: versatile 7-footers who can and will control the game. I believe the Lakers were damn near unstoppable when Kobe had > 25 FGAs. We don't need 30+ ppg from him no more. He does need to coast during the RS like, TD does. For all the I talk on TD, POP, managed his mpg brilliantly these last few years (he has lost a step or two though). His reward? TD was easily a top 5 big during the 2012 playoffs. Why? Because he had something left in the tank from a few DNP-OLD games, and reduced minutes when he did play during the RS.

    Kobe no doubt read what Simers wrote before the LAT editor did (sarcasm). Just like any other scathing article written about him. But will he listen? Time will tell tbh. I don't have a good feeling about it because he has found success 5xs doing it his way. I don't see him changing, but he needs to tbh.

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    ^ bro, what happened to your avatar and sig?


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    I think age hits harder on guards because the age will slow you down. Big's like Timmy and Dirk can still play there game because there fundamentals and Dirk shot is still hard to guard. happen's nobody like's seeing there teams superstar decline but it happens.

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    kob has been in decline since 07 imho and he should be glad to win 2 more rings with pau on the downhill. if he accepts a smaller role and trusts his teammates more, starting to play the game the way duncan does, he's still a positive rather than negative impact but we know he ain't doing that for team's good. he's bigger than the team

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    ^ bro, what happened to your avatar and sig?

    It was a schtick that no longer applies. But I still got Kobe: 5, TD: 4.

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    Kobe is a very smart guy, but sometimes an athlete's intelligence is clouded by his own ego. Kobe knows the financial score with his team. He knows how hamstrung that franchise is. I just believe that he's expecting the FO to work miracles around the albatross that it is own contract.

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