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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Tank purposely in order to drop to a great franchise.

    Think about it would you rather start your career in town Charlotte or Washington or fall in the draft to get picked up by a proven franchise: Houston, Phoenix, San Antonio ?
    I have been watching this guy's games for 3 years. The ty motor isn't something that just came up this season at UConn.

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    Tank purposely in order to drop to a great franchise.

    Think about it would you rather start your career in town Charlotte or Washington or fall in the draft to get picked up by a proven franchise: Houston, Phoenix, San Antonio ?
    keyword houston hasnt proven

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    So far, its been noted that he lacks work ethic and effort. Interesting that he wants to join the Spurs or the Celtics given his lack of intensity.

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    Did you watch Felton play this year though? He was awful and has only looked good in D'Antoni's ridiculous system. Even if Marshall is the second coming of Mark Jackson or Lillard is the second coming of Gary Payton, that does nothing for winning now, as almost no point guard can run an offense his rookie nor sop re year. Drummond is obviously a long-term project who isn't going to come close to replacing Parker's offense for a while in the best case.

    If Duncan was to retire and the team needed to be blown up, then trading Parker for Portland's 2 picks would make a lot of sense. The team showed way too much this year to be blown up though. Do I think they'll replicate this amazing season next year? Doubtful. Still, the potential is there to be a le contender again if they can make a good move or two to tweak the supporting cast.
    Why doesn't a rookie help us now? Didn't Kawhi help us during our run in the playoffs? Drummond maybe a project on the offensive end but he would be a beast on defensive end by protecting the rim. Look at our defensive numbers when Duncan goes to the bench and Lorbek, Diaw or Splitter won't help those numbers. Also, if you don't want a rookie running the point, pick up veteran in free agency. Unlike you, I'm not tied to Parker and I refuse to go through another year with Parker pulling another disappearing act in critical playoff games.

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    Deron Williams, Brooklyn Nets – $16.4 million – Player Option ($17.8 million)
    Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns – $11.7 million – Unrestricted
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    Raymond Felton, Portland Trail Blazers – $7.6 million – Unrestricted
    Kirk Hinrich, Atlanta Hawks – $8.0 million – Unrestricted
    Jason Kidd, Dallas Mavericks – $8.6 million – Unrestricted
    Andre Miller, Denver Nuggets – $7.8 million – Unrestricted
    Chauncey Billups, L.A. Clippers – $2.0 million – Unrestricted
    Jameer Nelson, Orlando Magic – $7.8 million – Player Option ($7.8 million)
    D.J. Augustin, Charlotte Bobcats – $3.2 million – Restricted ($4.4 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jason Terry, Dallas Mavericks – $10.7 million – Unrestricted
    George Hill, Indiana Pacers – $2.1 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
    Jordan Farmar, Brooklyn Nets – $4.0 million – Player Option ($4.3 million)
    Leandro Barbosa, Indiana Pacers – $7.6 million – Unrestricted
    Goran Dragic, Houston Rockets – $2.1 million – Unrestricted
    Jerryd Bayless, Toronto Raptors – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.2 million Qualifying Offer)
    Derek Fisher, Oklahoma City Thunder – $3.4 million – Unrestricted
    Randy Foye, L.A. Clippers – $4.3 million – Unrestricted
    Mo Williams, L.A. Clippers – $8.5 million – Player Option ($8.5 million)
    Jonny Flynn, Portland Trail Blazers – $3.4 million – Unrestricted
    Keyon Dooling, Boston Celtics – $2.2 million – Unrestricted
    Ishmael Smith, Orlando Magic – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Ramon Sessions, L.A. Lakers – $4.3 million – Player Option ($4.6 million)
    Jeremy Lin, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
    Sundiata Gaines, Brooklyn Nets – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    A.J. Price, Indiana Pacers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
    Baron Davis, New York Knicks – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Royal Ivey, Oklahoma City Thunder – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
    John Lucas, Chicago Bulls – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
    Gilbert Arenas, Memphis Grizzlies – $0.4 million – Unrestricted
    Jannero Pargo, Atlanta Hawks – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Delonte West, Dallas Mavericks – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Walker Russell, Jr., Detroit Pistons – $0.4 million – Unrestricted*
    Darius Morris, L.A. Lakers – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Terrell Harris, Miami HEAT – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Carldell Johnson, New Orleans Hornets – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    DeAndre Liggins, Orlando Magic – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
    Ronnie Price, Phoenix Suns – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    T.J. Ford, Golden State Warriors – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Anthony Carter, Toronto Raptors – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
    Roger Mason, Washington Wizards – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
    Jamaal Tinsley, Utah Jazz – $1.2 million – Team Option ($1.3 million)
    Donald Sloan, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.2 million – Unrestricted*
    Manny Harris, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.4 million – Unrestricted*
    Patty Mills, San Antonio Spurs – $0.3 million – Unrestricted*
    Courtney Fortson, Houston Rockets – $0.2 million – Unrestricted*
    Mike James, Chicago Bulls – $0.6 million – Unrestricted
    Jerome Dyson, New Orleans Hornets – $0.1 million – Unrestricted*
    Ben Uzoh, Toronto Raptors – $0.2 million – Unrestricted*
    Armon Johnson, Brooklyn Nets – $0.1 million – Unrestricted*
    Earl Boykins, Houston Rockets – $0.2 million – Unrestricted
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    Nice endorsement from his teammate

    RT @blazersedge: UConn G Jeremy Lamb on UConn C Andre Drummond's NBA potential: "It depends on if he wants to work."

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    Nice endorsement from his teammate

    RT @blazersedge: UConn G Jeremy Lamb on UConn C Andre Drummond's NBA potential: "It depends on if he wants to work."
    lol damn...

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    Nice endorsement from his teammate

    RT @blazersedge: UConn G Jeremy Lamb on UConn C Andre Drummond's NBA potential: "It depends on if he wants to work."
    I'm almost sure he'll slide a little bit now.

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    Why doesn't a rookie help us now? Didn't Kawhi help us during our run in the playoffs? Drummond maybe a project on the offensive end but he would be a beast on defensive end by protecting the rim. Look at our defensive numbers when Duncan goes to the bench and Lorbek, Diaw or Splitter won't help those numbers. Also, if you don't want a rookie running the point, pick up veteran in free agency. Unlike you, I'm not tied to Parker and I refuse to go through another year with Parker pulling another disappearing act in critical playoff games.
    Drummond is a project on both ends of the floor. He's dumb and has a horrible work ethic. Shotblocking isn't great defense any more than steals are. Drummond has enormous potential, but sacrificing Parker for him in a season you're trying to win is moronic. Is the team supposed to depend on 36 year-old Ginobili not throwing up any stinkers like his game 6 in OKC? You're going anywhere in the west without an allstar?

    LOL @ for brains and for desire Drummond being comparable to Leonard in a rookie year.

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    I'd pass on the lack of motivation alone. If playing basketball, which you would assume he likes to do anyways, for millions of dollars isn't motivating there isn't much that is going to push him to improve.

    Scouts noted Leonard's shooting issues prior to the draft. Once drafted Kawhi took to the gym, even when they couldn't get the lights working, to improve his shot. Drummond doesn't have that drive and its not something you can teach. The NBA is the last place that you can just "get by", especially under Pop, which is exactly what every scout has been saying about this kid.

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    So far, its been noted that he lacks work ethic and effort. Interesting that he wants to join the Spurs or the Celtics given his lack of intensity.
    Where did you hear that?

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    Where did you hear that?
    http://projectspurs.com/2012-article...-drummond.html

    "When asked what teams off the Top 5 radar want to meet with him, former UConn center Andre Drummond said the Celtics and Spurs."

    Not really what he wants though.

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    Nice endorsement from his teammate

    RT @blazersedge: UConn G Jeremy Lamb on UConn C Andre Drummond's NBA potential: "It depends on if he wants to work."
    The full quote isn't nearly as damning. Still, it's not as if he let the cat outta the bag...immense talent and potential, serious question whether he ever puts it all together.

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    Whoever said he could help us like Kawhi is way off base, based on what we hear on Drummond's work ethic, which alone, is a huge aspect to making it in the NBA.

    Kawhi is in the gym when the lights are off, he's a very hard worker. IMO that is the main reason he did so well, he really worked his ass off to improve after being drafted and wants to improve everyday.

    Guys with no work ethic are some of the biggest busts in NBA history.
    Last edited by Ice009; 06-25-2012 at 11:20 PM.

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    Drummond is athletic enough and talented enough to play a reasonable career even with his work lousy ethic. I mean, Olowokandi played 9 seasons and had nothing like Drummond's athleticism but was pretty similar on most other accounts. He's not a guy I would ever expect to be any good on a winning team though; he reminds me of a 6'10" Beno in that regard.

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    Drummond is athletic enough and talented enough to play a reasonable career even with his work lousy ethic. I mean, Olowokandi played 9 seasons and had nothing like Drummond's athleticism but was pretty similar on most other accounts. He's not a guy I would ever expect to be any good on a winning team though; he reminds me of a 6'10" Beno in that regard.
    When I said biggest busts in NBA history, I was referring to guys that had the potential to be stars, but lousy work ethics destroyed that.

    Of course he can play for a long time, but he won't be a star with a crap work ethic. Trading TP, like someone mentioned previously, for someone with a horrible work ethic would be a huge gamble even if he does have the potential to be a big star down the road.

    A guy with Drummond's potential + a horrible work ethic usually = bust.

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    Where did you hear that?
    I read the link posted below your comment, but it's I clear now that I mis-read. Looks like the Spurs and the Celtics were the ones interested in him, and not the other way around.

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