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    Lol newcastlekeg

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    Soak In Your Own Blood BanditHiro's Avatar
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    lol already blowing up the team

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    Noal?


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    Heard some rumors that the Kings may trade their 5th pick for Deng (possible Evans in the trade as well).

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    Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine

    Interesting morsel from @iwhittell: Warriors scout Speedy Claxton at Great Britain practice today in Houston. GSDubs are a Luol Deng suitor

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story...urprised-trade

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    Warriors have so many wings, I can't believe they would part with their lottery pick unless it was for Noah.

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    We'll take Noel, but he is UGLY.

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    Crofl stuck with Boozer

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    I'd love to have Noah on the Spurs.....

    Bonner for Noah.

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    Pau for Noah and cap fillers:

    Sessions
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    Noah
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    Pau for Noah and cap fillers:

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    lmao please, please do that. that move makes you guys worse

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    lmao please, please do that. that move makes you guys worse
    Offensively or defensively? I say it improves us defensively without much of an effect on us offensively. It improves our team speed - due to his non stop motor. It improves our rebounding too. Why? Despite our height we were giving up offensive rebounds to Ibaka and Porkins left and right - even after stops. We also get 5 years younger at the PF spot. We still have our 1-2 punch + Noah's hustle/garbage buckets/offensive rebounding.

    I hope you were joking.

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    First off, swapping Pau for Noah isn't a "wash" offensively, that move makes you worse for several reasons:

    1) Pau is 10 times the player offensively that Noah is

    2) Spacing. Noah can't shoot from outside and the paint will get clogged

    3) He will just get in Bynum's way on the block.

    Noah's hustle on defense in no way makes him worth completely ing up your offense.

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    Noah is a fine player, but Gasol is better from a fit perspective and talent level as well. Noah and Bynum would be very crowded on offense - It would definitely hurt LA because Bynum and Noah aren't a great fit (at least on paper). He would help defensively for sure.

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    ^ sup copy cat

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    Offensively or defensively? I say it improves us defensively without much of an effect on us offensively. It improves our team speed - due to his non stop motor. It improves our rebounding too. Why? Despite our height we were giving up offensive rebounds to Ibaka and Porkins left and right - even after stops. We also get 5 years younger at the PF spot. We still have our 1-2 punch + Noah's hustle/garbage buckets/offensive rebounding.

    I hope you were joking.
    Noah is a starting caliber center. The Lakers already have a starting caliber center named Bynum. Do you really think that these two playing next to each other would work out? Do you actually believe Noah would take a bench role during his prime years?

    If you trade Pau you better make damn sure you're getting a PF who is just as mobile and has the offensive ability that he has, not Andrew Bynum without a post game.

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    First off, swapping Pau for Noah isn't a "wash" offensively, that move makes you worse for several reasons:

    1) Pau is 10 times the player offensively that Noah is

    2) Spacing. Noah can't shoot from outside and the paint will get clogged

    3) He will just get in Bynum's way on the block.

    Noah's hustle on defense in no way makes him worth completely ing up your offense.
    No arguments here concerning your comments about what it might do to the Lakers's offense. But, their offense and our defense sucked last year so those points may be moot. We know that Kobe and Bynum are 1a and 1b. I'm fully expecting 20/10/2+ from Bynum on 55% FGAs. I'm expecting about 25/6/6 from Kobe on (hopefully) 47% FGAs. Noah, could get us 15/10 easily on hustle, putbacks, and finishes due to the doubles/triples Bynum and Kobe will attract.

    On defense, I like his P&R coverage way better than Pau. We know P&R is the Lakers' kryptonite and has been since Stockton/Malone. I would say that our defense would trigger our offense. Noah runs the floor way better than Pau can. Kobe can still run. Sessions' game is predicated on a run and gun type offense (not saying the Lakers would employ it full time by any stretch of the imagination). We could employ it for easy buckets though. Not looking at the stats but we were probably bottom half of the league in terms of fastbreak points/game.

    I do worry about the paint being clogged, but the offensive rebounding capabilities with a team that has 2 of the best offensive rebounders in the game is tempting to me. I believe that eventually he would develop a better more consistent jumper as well. Pau was shooting 3s last year. That didn't end well for us. Noah could hit an elbow jumper here and there. It could work.

    Pipe anyway as I don't see Thibbs giving up his defensive anchor for a 32 year old Pau.

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    I am fairly confident that if LA makes that call, Bulls do an insta-accept.

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    Noah is a starting caliber center. The Lakers already have a starting caliber center named Bynum. Do you really think that these two playing next to each other would work out? Do you actually believe Noah would take a bench role during his prime years?

    If you trade Pau you better make damn sure you're getting a PF who is just as mobile and has the offensive ability that he has, not Andrew Bynum without a post game.
    Pau is a center. We won two rings with him playing PF. It could work.

    Pau is much more effective as a center than he was as a PF. Proof: 2009 Finals. Despite being stronger, jumps higher, younger, and faster, Pau handled D12. Thing is, his level of play has fell off the last two years.

    To say Noah wouldn't work because he is a center isn't true IMO. So is Pau.

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    Pau is a center/pf, and also one with a lot more offensive skill and range. See, pau is actually a threat from the high post. The only thing noah does is get in Bynum's way on the block.

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    I am fairly confident that if LA makes that call, Bulls do an insta-accept.
    Win-win IMO. I know Pau is a better shooter and passer. I'll take Noah on the other big man stats that matter to me: rebounding, swatting, steals, offensive putbacks, P&R defense.

    The Lakers lost because our bigs didn't play big against OKC. I'll take my chances with Bynum v. Porkins and Noah v. Ibaka. Ibaka took Pau's nuts and pissed me off. Versus Noah, I don't think so. Like PJ used to say, you win with men. Noah plays a man's game. We need a no-nonsense type MFer on this team. It's bad enough that our toughest player is a SG. That would change with Noah paired with Bynum IMO.

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    No arguments here concerning your comments about what it might do to the Lakers's offense. But, their offense and our defense sucked last year so those points may be moot. We know that Kobe and Bynum are 1a and 1b. I'm fully expecting 20/10/2+ from Bynum on 55% FGAs. I'm expecting about 25/6/6 from Kobe on (hopefully) 47% FGAs. Noah, could get us 15/10 easily on hustle, putbacks, and finishes due to the doubles/triples Bynum and Kobe will attract.

    On defense, I like his P&R coverage way better than Pau. We know P&R is the Lakers' kryptonite and has been since Stockton/Malone. I would say that our defense would trigger our offense. Noah runs the floor way better than Pau can. Kobe can still run. Sessions' game is predicated on a run and gun type offense (not saying the Lakers would employ it full time by any stretch of the imagination). We could employ it for easy buckets though. Not looking at the stats but we were probably bottom half of the league in terms of fastbreak points/game.

    I do worry about the paint being clogged, but the offensive rebounding capabilities with a team that has 2 of the best offensive rebounders in the game is tempting to me. I believe that eventually he would develop a better more consistent jumper as well. Pau was shooting 3s last year. That didn't end well for us. Noah could hit an elbow jumper here and there. It could work.

    Pipe anyway as I don't see Thibbs giving up his defensive anchor for a 32 year old Pau.
    excellent analysis...way better than all that bull Tyson and DPG is popping off tha mouth with....

    Pau for Noah....
    Bynum + Sessions for D-Will and Lopez
    TPE on Beasley
    Resign Odom for vet min

    Kobe
    D-Will
    Noah
    Beasley
    MWP

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    I think you have to look at Kobe too. He was a big reason they lost IMO.

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    Win-win IMO. I know Pau is a better shooter and passer. I'll take Noah on the other big man stats that matter to me: rebounding, swatting, steals, offensive putbacks, P&R defense.

    The Lakers lost because our bigs didn't play big against OKC. I'll take my chances with Bynum v. Porkins and Noah v. Ibaka. Ibaka took Pau's nuts and pissed me off. Versus Noah, I don't think so. Like PJ used to say, you win with men. Noah plays a man's game. We need a no-nonsense type MFer on this team. It's bad enough that our toughest player is a SG. That would change with Noah paired with Bynum IMO.
    Noah paired with Ron Ron would be insane on defense....

    D-Will and Kobe in the backcourt would be insane on offense

    Beasley would be a cherry on top

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