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This is the beginning of cir tourism.
Major victory for human rights
http://www.timesofisrael.com/german-...cir cisions/
Parents having their sons cir cised can be brought before a judge for causing bodily injury, even if they did so for religious reasons, a regional court in Germany has ruled.
The recent landmark decision will likely draw the condemnation of Jewish and Muslim communities, although official representatives have refrained from commenting so far, saying they first want to study the reasons given for the judgment.
Following the judgment by the District Court of Cologne, neither the rights of parents nor the cons utional freedom of religion can justify interventions such as cir cision, according to Financial Times Deutschland, which first reported the story.
Jewish community officials in Cologne said they have yet to study the court decision but have already contacted the Central Council of Jews in Germany. “The Central Council will try immediately to receive a written version of the judgment. Only then will it be possible to comment,” a statement read. “We understand the disquiet and we noticed the numerous phone calls and emails of our community members. We will stay involved and keep you updated.”
University of Passau jurist Holm Putzke told the FTD the decision could have far-reaching ramifications.
“As opposed to many politicians, the court was not deterred by fears of being criticized for anti-Semitism or hostility toward religion,” he said. “This decision could not only influence future jurisdiction, it could also lead the relevant religions to change their at ude with respect to the fundamental nature of children’s rights.”
The case that prompted the ruling took place in Cologne, when a 4-year-old boy, cir cised by a Muslim doctor, began bleeding two days after the surgery and needed to be brought into the emergency room.
The state prosecutor’s office learned of the case and sued, leading the district court to rule that the cir cision was a “severe and irreversible interference into physical integrity.”
Today, there are about 200,000 Jews in Germany, about 5,000 of them in the western city of Cologne.
Legal experts told the paper they assume that other courts in Germany could deal with similar cases and that the question of religiously motivated cir cisions will end up in the country’s Supreme Court.
This is the beginning of cir tourism.
Your body your choice
I'm glad my parents decided to clip the skin.. I liked it so much I had the same thing done to my boy..
Last edited by George Gervin's Afro; 06-26-2012 at 06:53 PM.
yeah well you're an ill informed child abuser
This ruling is just the tip of the iceberg.
Looks like this issue is coming to a head!
someone is going to get the shaft
My brother had his cir cision when he was older(26) and he is one of the few men in the world who knows how your orgasm feels with and without your foreskin. Your orgasm feels way stronger with it. the foreskin has a load of nerves and veins and is very sensitive. cir cision causes ED because your glands rubs the cotton underwear wearing the sensitivity of your wang down as you age.
Why did he have it removed at 26 and can I have mine reattached?
Good luck ever getting something like that put into law in the US, where anything can be justified by bull religion.
i'm currently working out the kinks to sue the hospital and doctor who performed mine. people have done it before and won. go learn a little bit about anatomy and the function of the foreskin, how it makes women many times more likely to achieve orgasm when you have a foreskin, and how a lack of one totally changes sex, and how you'll have erectile dysfunction as early as 40 but almost surely by 60 and see if it doesn't piss you off. there is a reason the US buys so much viagara, it's a big business the doctors get money for the "surgery" then sell the foreskin to sub salt in the wound and make matters worse. there is a great organization called foregen who is raising money to pioneer regenerative medicine in that area, they've raised enough money to begin trials this summer.
people will have to spread awareness and make a big enough splash to get money moving in that direction. it'll actually be profitable for whoever does it, i guess we just have to get it out in the open and show that the demand is there.
there is currently a nonprofit organization called foregen who is about to do their first experiment this summer. they've raised 35,000 simply by small donations by regular people, what we need is to attract the attention of some wealthy people who had this imposed on them against their will and resent it.
You know a lot about this topic. I think you are definitely the forum expert on s.
for someone with an advanced degree, let's try to act like adults here dude i know it's spurstalk and all
But this is the only place I get to be a childish prick!
And c'mon, that was kind of funny.
yeah i just never really found this subject very funny, it reminds me that there is something terribly wrong with this society who routinely does this to infants. if more people were exposed to information this practice would have died out 70 years ago like it did in europe.
In total seriousness, I think it would help the cause if we stopped the PC word we've come up with it and call it what it really is: slicing off portions of baby penises. Let's see how many people are gun ho about it then.
it's male genital mutilation is what it is, just like female genital mutilation which was banned some years back. the current laws are very sexist and need a reform, that's for sure but there are already some good people working on it. i imagine in the coming years we will see a lot of change in regards to this. the rates are already dropping massively, somewhere between 30-50% currently down from possibly as high as 90% back in the 80's.
it's just a basic human rights violation to amputate healthy erogenous tissue from healthy baby boys. it's akin to pulling your teeth so you don't have to brush. cir cision is terribly outdated and backwards, we should have moved past such cultist practices after the salem witch trials. cir cision was popularized in america many years ago by kellogg who wanted to diminish sexual pleasure to stop masturbation, he was a nutcase who believed masturbation was the root of all evil
let's not forget babies DIE from this every year as well as many others who get written off as "SIDS" or "birth complications" in which this had something to do with it. it's an incredibly painful and excruciating procedure, the myth that babies don't feel pain was debunked long ago. they've done studies and shown changes in the infant brain and elevated levels of cortisol (stress hormone) in infants even SIX MONTHS after the procedure.
i intend to sue the doctor and hospital and donate all proceeds to regenerative medicine.
Last edited by mavs>spurs; 06-26-2012 at 09:49 PM.
what a move
That's the spirit, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
In all serious though, the sarcasm coming from some of the males in regards to this subject (and it never fails) shows insecurity surrounding the subject. Nobody wants to admit that they were damaged or harmed, it's not easy.
But for every one of you, there are others man enough to speak out and take action. Hopefully someday there will be a solution for everyone affected by this, even those of you who are too timid to help out. Once the harm done becomes general consensus and everyone is doing it, you guys will be in line
Look, first of all, I am whole, my dad is whole, and my son is whole. I know I have a benefit. It doesn't make me an less of a guy. Guys like to make stupid juvenile jokes (especially at the expense of other guys). I really think that guys don't mature past 12, we just get better at understanding when we can be ourselves.In all serious though, the sarcasm coming from some of the males in regards to this subject (and it never fails) shows insecurity surrounding the subject. Nobody wants to admit that they were damaged or harmed, it's not easy.
But for every one of you, there are others man enough to speak out and take action. Hopefully someday there will be a solution for everyone affected by this, even those of you who are too timid to help out. Once the harm done becomes general consensus and everyone is doing it, you guys will be in line
With all that being said, I am glad that the trend is STRONG in the right direction.
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