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    Tomorrow.


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    real clear politics thinks "balls n strikes" Roberts will write the decision, since he didn't write any of the recent decisions.

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    real clear politics thinks "balls n strikes" Roberts will write the decision, since he didn't write any of the recent decisions.
    Tom Goldstein of SCOTUSblog, who watches that Court about as closely as anyone and has been quite prescient about outcomes in the past, agrees on the likelihood that the Chief Justice writes the principal opinion (in a landmark case of this sort, one would think that the Chief Justice -- who assigns the opinion writing task for whichever side of the case he happens to be on -- would keep that assignment for himself).

    Goldstein nevertheless predicts, with some hesitation, that the mandate will survive this challenge in some form or fashion.

    http://www.scotusblog.com/2012/06/in-the-end/

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    Did you know that if you hold the cursor over the topic area for a moment, it will show you the first sentence or two of the post?

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    Why I Hope SCOTUS Strikes Down Obamacare

    It's likely the Supreme Court's ruling on Obamacare will be influenced by politics instead of historical precedent.

    Since John Roberts' appointment as Chief Justice, SCOTUS has ruled in favor of corporate America's chief lobbying ins ution, the US Chamber of Commerce, in all seven cases where the Chamber took one side or the other. The Chamber has openly stated that the individual mandate can't be separated from the Affordable Care Act.

    There won't be any middle ground for SCOTUS to take: they either keep the law intact, or strike all of it. Clarence Thomas' family receiving $1.5 million from anti-healthcare-reform special interests will undoubtedly play a part in his decision.

    http://readersupportednews.org/opini...down-obamacare

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    Good one?

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    Why I Hope SCOTUS Strikes Down Obamacare

    It's likely the Supreme Court's ruling on Obamacare will be influenced by politics instead of historical precedent.

    Since John Roberts' appointment as Chief Justice, SCOTUS has ruled in favor of corporate America's chief lobbying ins ution, the US Chamber of Commerce, in all seven cases where the Chamber took one side or the other. The Chamber has openly stated that the individual mandate can't be separated from the Affordable Care Act.

    There won't be any middle ground for SCOTUS to take: they either keep the law intact, or strike all of it. Clarence Thomas' family receiving $1.5 million from anti-healthcare-reform special interests will undoubtedly play a part in his decision.

    http://readersupportednews.org/opini...down-obamacare
    Let me get this strait.

    You are saying that the words of a democrat politician, who was a former Clinton aide, is stating a fact while running for office?

    Where is the evidence behind his accusation please.

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    Why I Hope SCOTUS Strikes Down Obamacare

    It's likely the Supreme Court's ruling on Obamacare will be influenced by politics instead of historical precedent.

    Since John Roberts' appointment as Chief Justice, SCOTUS has ruled in favor of corporate America's chief lobbying ins ution, the US Chamber of Commerce, in all seven cases where the Chamber took one side or the other. The Chamber has openly stated that the individual mandate can't be separated from the Affordable Care Act.

    There won't be any middle ground for SCOTUS to take: they either keep the law intact, or strike all of it. Clarence Thomas' family receiving $1.5 million from anti-healthcare-reform special interests will undoubtedly play a part in his decision.

    http://readersupportednews.org/opini...down-obamacare

    Because Thomas was on the fence? The only thing that would be more surprising than Thomas voting to uphold the mandate would be Sotomayor voting to overturn.

    Roberts and Kennedy are the only votes we don't know (on the mandate).

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    Boehner vows to repeal ‘Obamacare’ if it survives court challenge

    Republican House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday vowed to repeal all of the Affordable Care Act if the U.S. Supreme Court did not strike down the health care reform law.

    “Now we all know the Supreme Court is likely to make some announcement about ObamaCare tomorrow,” he said. “We made it pretty clear, and I’ll make it clear one more time: if the court does not strike down the entire law, the House will move to repeal what’s left of it.”

    “ObamaCare is driving up the cost of health care and making it harder for small businesses to hire new workers. Our focus has been the economy, and it will continue to be the economy.”

    Boehner accused President Barack Obama of favoring campaigning over creating jobs. He said that House Republicans had passed more than 30 jobs bills. Most those bills involved tax cuts.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/2...=Google+Reader

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    Because Thomas was on the fence? The only thing that would be more surprising than Thomas voting to uphold the mandate would be Sotomayor voting to overturn.

    Roberts and Kennedy are the only votes we don't know (on the mandate).
    This Thomas/money thing is funny. I wonder if any of the resident liberals here looked up the facts over that. I'm just waiting for them to make fools of themselves more than ShazBot already has.

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    if it gets overturned, will the current policy still stay in effect for like the rest of the year? i just need it to last a couple more months tbh

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    many liberals wish it would be overturned and usher in the era of single payer, but I think the law will be upheld at least for the most part...

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    This is an especially interesting case since the repeal of Obamacare has been a centerpiece of Republican campaigns. If it gets thrown out by the court... then the entire GOP has lost it's main battle cry and the narrative changes.

    If it gets upheld, it's a "win" for Obama, but it just strengthens the GOP's campaign issue and may drive voter turnout for the GOP in November.

    If it's overturned by the court, Obama faces a defeat of his signature legislation, but then can rally around the idea of single-payer or universal health care (which are considered further left, but are likely to face similar cons utional challenges).

    If the court upholds it, Obama has to continue to campaign on the support of a divisive law.

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    if it gets overturned, will the current policy still stay in effect for like the rest of the year? i just need it to last a couple more months tbh
    If it is ruled uncons utional, then it is not uncons utional in a couple of months, it is uncons utional now.

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    I'll be surprised if this healthcare law stays as is. God bless

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    CNN reporting that the mandate is not a valid use of the commerce clause.

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    Scotusblog says this "The individual mandate survives as a tax"

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    So the mandate is cons utional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court.

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    The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government's power to terminate states' Medicaid funds is narrowly read.

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    : the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government's power to terminate states' Medicaid funds is narrowly read.

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    wow

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    Basically the government cannot use the commerce clause to justify the mandate, but can use the taxing powers of the congress to do so.

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    In that case, they need to raise the tax enough to pay for the health care they are providing. $400 is a joke.

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    I actually wanted this mandate gone. Blah.

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