First health care dominio falls...

[mouse]

Come on now...

It's obvious he had the "i" key jump out in front of the "o" key:

Rack!

[jack sommerset]

I guess I was wrong about it being repealed. The court struck it down instead. MY BAD.

Congratulations! This is a start. The road to recovery is a rough one. You are a very emotional person and have a big heart. It takes a big person to admit they are wrong and even a bigger person to do something about it. Walker still being the governor doesn't matter. People are wrong all the time. It's what they do after is what is the real problem. Making fun of Yoni is not a healthy thing for you to do. Take chump for instance. That man is in here day and night making noise, causing problems and accusing people of all sorts of hurtful damaging things. He is not a happy person. No one can be happy conducting themselves in that sort of behavior. It's a defense mechanism for something negative that has happened in his life. This thread I'm being accused of being a time bomb that could go out and kill people. He has terrible sleeping patterns and when I mentioned that he accused me of stalking him! You don't want to end up like him. Bitter and full of hate. I still have hope for him and will continue to pray for him. You can stop this foolishness if you want and today was a start. Way to go. Tell yoni to keep on posting and his opinion counts. God bless

[George Gervin's Afro]

My brother, I will say a prayer for you this evening. I'm surprised of this decision handed down today. God works in mysterious ways. This story is not finished yet. God bless

denial..lol

[jack sommerset]

denial..lol

My brother, the election will be based on healthcare now. You vote for Obama, you like it, you vote for Mitt, you dont want to pay for other people's healthcare. It might be a tough pill to swallow for a complex intelectual individual like you but mark my words, the new leader of the USA will be voted in for his stance on healthcare. God bless

[George Gervin's Afro]

My brother, the election will be based on healthcare now. You vote for Obama, you like it, you vote for Mitt, you dont want to pay for other people's healthcare. It might be a tough pill to swallow for a complex intelectual individual like you but mark my words, the new leader of the USA will be voted in for his stance on healthcare. God bless

we already pay for other people's healthcare ..you do realize that..right?

[101A]

Really torn on this one.

As a conservative, a person who truly believes that the power of the Federal Government should be limited; that the 10th amendment is the most abused text in the entire Cons ution, I don't like this ruling at all. Roberts took a tortured path to find a reason to uphold the law. It appears that he made his decision, then figured out a way to justify it.

However, this law DOES require all Americans to purchase health insurance, and, more significantly establishes a penalty for employers who choose NOT to provide health insurance to their employees.

My company sells group health insurance; this is a windfall (seriously).

Thus, the dilemma.

Screw it, self interest wins. I'm freaking ecstatic about this ruling

[FuzzyLumpkins]

A tax and a fine may be a matter of semantics but the court ruled the penalty to be the former. The only effect the mandate has is to give the insurers a captive audience is neither here nor there as to health care talking up 1/4 of GNP. If there is no oversight on rates like there is at the state level for car liability then a vertical demand slope will do as it will.

[101A]

A tax and a fine may be a matter of semantics but the court ruled the penalty to be the former. The only effect the mandate has is to give the insurers a captive audience is neither here nor there as to health care talking up 1/4 of GNP. If there is no oversight on rates like there is at the state level for car liability then a vertical demand slope will do as it will.

Boomers aging; coupled with our reverential treatment of Doctors and modern healthcare guarantee a steep increase and cost for healthcare in this country. It's not HOW we pay for healthcare that is driving the price of healthcare; IT IS THE COST OF THE HEALTHCARE!!! Duh.

If we want healthcare to cost less, is has to COST LESS.

Rationing, Compe ion or Price Controls. Pick one, or a combination thereof.

[boutons_deux]

Rationing, Compe ion or Price Controls. Pick one, or a combination thereof.

a public health insurance plan, paid with income (earned and unearned) taxes is the best compe ion against the for-profit health insurance cartel.

Salaried (not fee-for-service) govt employed doctors, hospitals is the best compe ion for greedy, gouging fee-for-service doctors, doctors.

neither will happen. the entrenched for-profit health care are too strong (they own legislators, operate govt to their benefit) to allow any policies that would reduce their wealth.

[101A]

a public health insurance plan, paid with income (earned and unearned) taxes is the best compe ion against the for-profit health insurance cartel.

Salaried (not fee-for-service) govt employed doctors, hospitals is the best compe ion for greedy, gouging fee-for-service doctors, doctors.

neither will happen. the entrenched for-profit health care are too strong (they own legislators, operate govt to their benefit) to allow any policies that would reduce their wealth.

I highly doubt the government could compete on an absolute cost basis with private doctors or insurance companies. Sure, they could set their cost lower; but he overall cost to society would not decrease. Just look at UPS and Fed Ex vs. the postal service.

The items that are the MOST cost effective on an absolute basis are those where private companies are competing with each other in a cutthroat marketplace. Right now, healthcare dollars are virtually unlimited; doctors/hospitals DON'T WORRY about what they charge for something; no one ever asks, and it always gets paid. I can't think of any other service I purchase where that is the case. I don't just go into my auto shop, pay a copay, and NO MATTER what happens, I am only out 50 bucks. Oil Change? 50- bucks. New Transmission - $50. How many transmissions would get replaced if we had copays for such things?

[ElNono]

Rationing, Compe ion or Price Controls. Pick one, or a combination thereof.

I'll take C for $100, Alex!

Good to see you 101A.

[DarrinS]

Lol

http://twitter.com/BarackObama/statu...27805934280705

[ChumpDumper]

Congratulations! This is a start. The road to recovery is a rough one. You are a very emotional person and have a big heart. It takes a big person to admit they are wrong and even a bigger person to do something about it. Walker still being the governor doesn't matter. People are wrong all the time. It's what they do after is what is the real problem. Making fun of Yoni is not a healthy thing for you to do. Take chump for instance. That man is in here day and night making noise, causing problems and accusing people of all sorts of hurtful damaging things. He is not a happy person. No one can be happy conducting themselves in that sort of behavior. It's a defense mechanism for something negative that has happened in his life. This thread I'm being accused of being a time bomb that could go out and kill people. He has terrible sleeping patterns and when I mentioned that he accused me of stalking him! You don't want to end up like him. Bitter and full of hate. I still have hope for him and will continue to pray for him. You can stop this foolishness if you want and today was a start. Way to go. Tell yoni to keep on posting and his opinion counts. God bless

Who do you plan to kill first?

Will God tell you where to start?

Ron bless.

[MannyIsGod]

Congratulations! This is a start. The road to recovery is a rough one. You are a very emotional person and have a big heart. It takes a big person to admit they are wrong and even a bigger person to do something about it. Walker still being the governor doesn't matter. People are wrong all the time. It's what they do after is what is the real problem. Making fun of Yoni is not a healthy thing for you to do. Take chump for instance. That man is in here day and night making noise, causing problems and accusing people of all sorts of hurtful damaging things. He is not a happy person. No one can be happy conducting themselves in that sort of behavior. It's a defense mechanism for something negative that has happened in his life. This thread I'm being accused of being a time bomb that could go out and kill people. He has terrible sleeping patterns and when I mentioned that he accused me of stalking him! You don't want to end up like him. Bitter and full of hate. I still have hope for him and will continue to pray for him. You can stop this foolishness if you want and today was a start. Way to go. Tell yoni to keep on posting and his opinion counts. God bless

Lol thinking i was actually wrong and missing sarcasm

[George Gervin's Afro]

Congratulations! This is a start. The road to recovery is a rough one. You are a very emotional person and have a big heart. It takes a big person to admit they are wrong and even a bigger person to do something about it. Walker still being the governor doesn't matter. People are wrong all the time. It's what they do after is what is the real problem. Making fun of Yoni is not a healthy thing for you to do. Take chump for instance. That man is in here day and night making noise, causing problems and accusing people of all sorts of hurtful damaging things. He is not a happy person. No one can be happy conducting themselves in that sort of behavior. It's a defense mechanism for something negative that has happened in his life. This thread I'm being accused of being a time bomb that could go out and kill people. He has terrible sleeping patterns and when I mentioned that he accused me of stalking him! You don't want to end up like him. Bitter and full of hate. I still have hope for him and will continue to pray for him. You can stop this foolishness if you want and today was a start. Way to go. Tell yoni to keep on posting and his opinion counts. God bless

I don't think you're dangerous.. I just think you are an idiot..


jon hess

[jack sommerset]

we already pay for other people's healthcare ..you do realize that..right?

Not even close to the amount we will be paying if this health care bill is not repealed. What a silly question you ask. Completely disingenuous and the weakest attempt to avoid the problem this law causes. My brother, you of all people throughout the history of mankind should never call someone a name like "idiot" or challenge someone's intelligents. Understandably you may not understand this advice, all things considering. You're special. Try to treat people with respect. Again, your sig tells me you have a good soul. I'm sure of that. God bless

[ElNono]

Not even close to the amount we will be paying if this health care bill is not repealed.

How much are we going to pay, jack? Ninth commandment, jack...

[jack sommerset]

How much are we going to pay, jack? Ninth commandment, jack...

Trillions. We're not done adding the taxes up yet, brother. God bless

[jack sommerset]

Lol thinking i was actually wrong and missing sarcasm

I'm not wrong. You're in denial or putting up a old front to save face with your buddies. I will pray for you. God bless

[ChumpDumper]

Trillions. We're not done adding the taxes up yet, brother. God bless

You shouldn't lie.

Ron bless.

[CosmicCowboy]

Jacks right. It's going to cost a lot more than the CBO projections. Nobody knows how much. They only counted the ones that currently didn't have health insurance.

The second this goes into effect I'm dropping the health insurance I currently pay on my employees and letting Obamacare pay for it. It's the smart thing to do.

I'd like to thank you blue teamers in advance for the extra 50K a year I will put in my pocket after I buy insurance for myself and my wife.

[ElNono]

The second this goes into effect I'm dropping the health insurance I currently pay on my employees

That would be a welcome development, IMO. Health insurance should've never been tied with employment to begin with.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm not wrong. You're in denial or putting up a old front to save face with your buddies. I will pray for you. God bless

An yet, threads that are easily searchable have yet to be shown where I said anything different than what I linked. I've been wrong plenty of times before but I'm not wrong here. Your theory is stupid as no one saves faces by not admitting when they are obviously wrong. You GAIN face by being able to admit when you're wrong.

You on the other hand, are too lazy to back up your bull .

[jack sommerset]

An yet, threads that are easily searchable have yet to be shown where I said anything different than what I linked. I've been wrong plenty of times before but I'm not wrong here. Your theory is stupid as no one saves faces by not admitting when they are obviously wrong. You GAIN face by being able to admit when you're wrong.

You on the other hand, are too lazy to back up your bull .

My brother, it's not important. You know what you said. I'll leave it at that. God bless

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Jacks right. It's going to cost a lot more than the CBO projections. Nobody knows how much. They only counted the ones that currently didn't have health insurance.

The second this goes into effect I'm dropping the health insurance I currently pay on my employees and letting Obamacare pay for it. It's the smart thing to do.

I'd like to thank you blue teamers in advance for the extra 50K a year I will put in my pocket after I buy insurance for myself and my wife.

You'd be throwing them under the bus, since obstructionist extraordinaire Perry and the rest of the TX yahoos failed to set up an exchange in our fair state.