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    Great news on Green. Despite his flame-out in the WCFs, he's still a key cog in the rotation. I also expect him to atone for his meltdown, too. I expect and hope that he's inserted back in the starting lineup.

    With the QO extended to Mills, it would stand to reason that the Spurs don't have a place for De Colo this season. Perhaps they want to give another year-long look at Joseph to determine if he can make it at this level.

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    Great news on Green. Despite his flame-out in the WCFs, he's still a key cog in the rotation. I also expect him to atone for his meltdown, too. I expect and hope that he's inserted back in the starting lineup.

    With the QO extended to Mills, it would stand to reason that the Spurs don't have a place for De Colo this season. Perhaps they want to give another year-long look at Joseph to determine if he can make it at this level.

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    Glad to see Danny getting the QO. He was pretty solid all year until the WCF. In his defense, that was a of a team and a lot of pressure. Except for Tim and Jackson, everyone else had some bad periods in that series.
    As for Mills getting the QO, I think it must be for the cheap price tag and to let him know the Spurs are interested in him. If he catches fire in the Olympics this summer, it will make even more sense.
    We do have a glut of point guards. Of which, I think only De Colo and Mills are qualified at the moment as back up pgs.

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    Would extending Green Qualifying Offer kill all the cap space of Spurs if Duncan signed a $10m-per-year contract?

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    De Colo and his agent have been quite affirmative that Spurs wants them. Nothing unexpected like a trade has happened during the draft night so it should still be the case.

    Even If De Colo is signed, keeping Mills makes sense. Having only a rookie as backup PG is very risky so Mills will be a nice and necessary insurance to have. However, Spurs wanting to keep Mills and wanting to add De Colo is a very bad news for Joseph. Spurs might very well have given up on him which wouldn't be that surprising given how bad he was in his rookie year.

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    De Colo and his agent have been quite affirmative that Spurs wants them. Nothing unexpected like a trade has happened during the draft night so it should still be the case.
    It sure looks like the Spurs will need to free up a roster space or two real soon.

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    If they did that and trade/amnesty Bonner and trade or didn't pickup the contract for Neal, Joseph or Blair, they would have 3+mil in Cap Space to sign Lorbek. They could use the two year exception to sign De Colo. Than the Spurs could resign Green or Mills to a larger contract than their QO and would push them over the cap, which would give them the Full MLE to resign Diaw.

    This is what I have been saying for months, apart from Mills and cutting Joseph because I didn't realize Mills could be tendered. Bonner as well as neither Neal or Blair need to sacrificed and probably Joseph as well for it to be possible for the Spurs to sign De Colo and Lorbek.


    And you've been wrong for months.

    It is impossible for a team to be below the cap at one point, use that cap space to sign a player, then go over the cap and get to use the MLE.

    Impossible.

    Everything you need to know about salary cap exceptions from the acknowledged expert on the subject:

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25

    How team salary is computed:

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25

    Everything you could ever want to know about the CBA can be found at Larry Coon's website.

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    Im glad DG will be around for a while too. Sure he disappeared against OKC but he was damn good the rest of the season. As for Mills, I liked what I saw and since Ive never seen Nando its better the devel you know. Joseph, well, I dont really care.

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    The QO count against the Cap. That is why RFA are the last player to be signed in NBA FA because teams look to use up any remaining cap before resigning their RFA. The only way the Spurs would lose this leverage if Green or Mills signed an offer sheet from another team. At that point, that number counts against the tendering team's Cap.

    But if Green and Mills just sit tight and just resign with the Spurs, the Spurs can just resign them without using any of their BAE or MLE. The Spurs will have the Full amounts for Two Year Exception and Mid level Exception.

    http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...exceptions.jsp

    Yes, reading up this it looks like the NBA made it to where these count against any remaining Cap Space. So, the Spurs more than likely with have to trade Joseph, Blair, and Neal for a trade exception to sign both Lorbek and Diaw.

    Spurs have 1mil trade exception now that can be used this FA.
    But they could make a trade with the Raptors, Nets, Magic, etc. for another 2mil+. which probably why they didn't want another 1st round pick but are looking to clear cap space and get some back with a Trade exception.
    Trade exceptions can't be used to sign Free Agents. As the name implies, they can be used to make trades.

    Diaw and Lorbek will have to be signed using salary cap exceptions. For the Spurs, those exceptions are the MLE, the BAE, and the Veteran's minimum.

    That's it.

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    Spurs have some very nice financial flexibility to make a trade. For example, with a package of Bonner, Blair, Neal, Joseph and Byars, they can take up to $11.6M in salary.
    Let's hope teams are more interested than they were last night.

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    BTW, when will the free agents market begin?

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    Let's hope teams are more interested than they were last night.
    Spurs didn't have the same financial flexibility during the draft. Making trades will be easier to do after July 1st. It's possible too that Spurs weren't that interested in draft picks: they are in win now mode and still have some young players.

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    Spurs didn't have the same financial flexibility during the draft. Making trades will be easier to do after July 1st. It's possible too that Spurs weren't that interested in draft picks: they are in win now mode and still have some young players.
    Exactly. It's not like the Spurs are OKC or Sacramento, where they don't have a guy over 30 starting.

    Pop wants to make sure Duncan retires with a ring on his thumb, and not overloading the roster with draft picks - but with guys fitting into and willing to learn Pop's system is the way forward.

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    Sunday, they can agree in prinicipal but FA can't officially sign until July 11.
    thanks

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