German court prohibits cir cisions

[CosmicCowboy]

damn sounds like a lot of work. to do that 3-4 times some nites. and what if there's no bathroom around? good luck I guess.

all I do is take a piss and go back to bed.

Nasty bas !

[cheguevara]

hey I'm not the one with the walking bacteria stick

[leemajors]

hey I'm not the one with the walking bacteria stick

your body is a walking bacteria sack

[cheguevara]

your body is a walking bacteria sack

yup and higher concentration in certain areas

[ChumpDumper]

Eh, other men bathe, che.

[Ginobilly]

biggest hoax in American history is that Men don't get full body orgasms like women. Keep believing ty womens magazines like cosmo! yeah cause they got cir cision and will never be able to tell the difference. The truth is You feel it all the way down to your spine and toes, belly-button, etc.

[Agloco]

"Because, after all, we're just supposed to lay there and quietly tolerate it anyway."

I found this especially funny, considering it describes unnatural cir cised sex. Cir cised men have to pound away a lot harder, and with longer strokes to achieve orgasm because of the lack of feeling and removed nerve endings. Cir cised sex promotes dryness, chafing, and painful sex for women. The mechanics of sex totally change. Sex is supposed to be enjoyable, if it isn't, something is missing. A foreskin, perhaps?

I've never had a problem with the first part. lol "pound away harder". 15 year-olds have to do that, not us seasoned vets.

I'm sorry that your perception of your sexual experiences changed once you were made aware of "how the other half lives". Truly, I am.

That said, sex is quite enjoyable for the masses who have been chopped, and their partners. I tend to deal in the reality of the situation, not in what if's. It's what I know, and it feels pretty damn good tbh. I can't say that I long for a refund.

Generally your argument is sound, however you imply that having a foreskin is essential to having a good sexual experience. I'm here to tell you that it's not.

[CuckingFunt]

Yes you did, you said it right here:

That said, as a woman, I have relatively little sympathy for the moaning and groaning some men do on the subject.

No. I didn't.

You can't read? I said it's impossible to compare to 2, but the closest thing would be to romove a woman's clitoral hood, not the entire clit. I'm sure you wouldn't volunteer yourself for that.

Straw man. I never said that I would. Or that men should.

Well here you go:

http://www.nocirc.org/touch-test/bju_6685.pdf

"The glans in the cir cised male is less sensitive to fine-touch pressure than the glans of the uncir cised male. The most sensitive location on the cir cised penis is the cir cision scar on the ventral surface. Five locations on the uncir cised penis that are routinely removed at cir cision were more sensitive than the most sensitive location on the cir cised penis."

That study seems to more conclusively state that the penis is made less sensitive by the removal of the foreskin than it does that the foreskin is itself some magical nerve factory. It still doesn't address the claims of which I'm skeptical, other than to perhaps suggest that they stem from a misunderstanding of these types of studies.

Funny you said that, I was reading a scholarly journal where the doctor started off by saying that particularly BECAUSE of the growing risk of being sued, it was time to revisit the stance on cir cision. The doctor fully acknowledged that there was a major liability in performing them and it needed to be addressed. By suing the doctor and hospital, I make them and others hesitant to perform the procedure. Doctors aren't in the business of losing money. The last man to do it got about 60k so it wouldn't be about the money, 60k doesn't even begin to make things right. I'd donate that money to regenerative medicine to help others.

Having doctors too afraid to perform the procedure isn't a solution to the problem you claim to be so worked up about. Parents of male infants would still request it, due to their preconceived notions and lack of reliable information/education, so all this would really do is foster a contentious relationship between doctors and patients.

As I said before, you think cir cision is a bad/unnecessary thing that is done way too often and for stupid reasons, and I agree completely. You say that people should be better informed about the long term affects of cir cision, both positive and negative, before making their decision and that the tons of misinformation currently circulating should be done away with? I'll back you on that one 100%. BUT, you start in with the histrionics--that this is the worst thing ever to happen to little boy babies, that the procedure should be banned, that you are deserving of res ution because your life has been made demonstrably worse by a procedure you had as an infant--and that's where you lose me. You're a young man, with a working , and what you claim is a happy and satisfying sex life. Get over it. Making this issue about yourself isn't activism, it's selfishness.

The summary of research findings at the bottom of this article is pretty conclusive - either the answer is no difference, or studies finding the exact opposite of another.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_...f_cir cision

Which is what I've found to be the case every time I've tried to research it.

[CuckingFunt]

yup and higher concentration in certain areas

just imagine this simple scenario, imagine you have foreskin on one of your fingers. Now out of your 10 fingers, after a long day, which finger will have more concentration of bacteria and more prone to infection?

The one I don't wash.

[Agloco]

your body is a walking bacteria sack

Indeed.

Crying about losing some bacteria-laden skin.

[Shastafarian]

Quality preputial thread.

[cheguevara]

Indeed.

Crying about losing some bacteria-laden skin.

not crying at all. Could'nt care either way tbh. Just pointing out there is scientific research proof on the health benefits. so it's no "myth"

[mavs>spurs]

biggest hoax in American history is that Men don't get full body orgasms like women. Keep believing ty womens magazines like cosmo! yeah cause they got cir cision and will never be able to tell the difference. The truth is You feel it all the way down to your spine and toes, belly-button, etc.

That's what I'm saying, and what people still don't get. I've talked to people who have had it done later in life, etc. I know what it does to your sex life. The only people who don't have anything negative to say were just recently cut and possibly haven't felt the effects of desensitization yet.

I post a study showing that the 5 most touch sensitive parts of the penis are removed with cir cision and somehow that isn't what they want to hear so the guy posts a link to a wikipedia page to studies where they compared the parts that both cir cised and uncir cised penises have in common, but forget one little thing: THE PARTS THAT WERE REMOVED!!! you can compare the inner foreskin remnant to one another, the glans, etc, but you cannot compare what exists on only one penis which is the foreskin, frenulum, ridged band, etc. once again, those studies are usually performed on men who were just cir cised, which is why in most of the results it says "no change after cir cision, or 51% of men felt their sex lives improved after cir cision, etc." That's why these studies are BIASED and hold no weight. Give it some time, say 5-20 years, and see if everything is still fine and dandy.

From someone who is cir cised, I can attest that the most sensitive part is along the scar line, where I assume a tiny fragment of foreskin tissue remains. the type of feeling is much different than the rest and is MUCH more sensitive. I can also attest that the frenulum is an erogenous zone, more comparable to the female clit than even the glans is. I'm lucky to have most of mine intact, but most or all of it is routinely removed during cir cision.

Again, I disagree with you CF in the sense that it is a big deal, bigger than you are making it out to be. You failed to address the findings that cir cision causes permanent changes to an infants brain development, feelings of low self esteem, and the amount of sheer PAIN that these babies go through.










If you can watch these videos and still support this bull then I sincerely hope you die a slow painful death.

[leemajors]

biggest hoax in American history is that Men don't get full body orgasms like women. Keep believing ty womens magazines like cosmo! yeah cause they got cir cision and will never be able to tell the difference. The truth is You feel it all the way down to your spine and toes, belly-button, etc.

No, as Agloco said and I have also experienced, this being limited to uncir cised people is a total myth. People who believe that probably also believe you have to ejaculate to have an orgasm.

[mavs>spurs]

Watch those videos if you dare. I want this ty, disgusting barbaric act seen and known for what it is- infant sexual torture. Anyone who imposes this on infants can burn in .

The screams, the gargling and choking on their own spit, it's just awful and makes me want to throw up.

[mavs>spurs]

Watch those videos if you dare. I want this ty, disgusting barbaric act seen and known for what it is- infant sexual torture. Anyone who imposes this on infants can burn in .

The screams, the gargling and choking on their own spit, it's just awful and makes me want to throw up.

[ElNono]

http://health.usnews.com/health-news...s-against-stds

In a study of more than 5,000 uncir cised adult Ugandan males, researchers found that after cir cision, the rates of infection with the virus that causes herpes went down by 28 percent, and the transmission of human papillomavirus (HPV) -- the virus that can cause cervical cancer and genital warts -- was reduced by 35 percent.

In a previous study, the same researchers found that cir cision reduced infection with the HIV virus by 60 percent. Two other research groups -- one working in Kenya and the other in South Africa -- have also had similar findings.

There is strong evidence that cir cision reduces the risk of HIV infection in heterosexual men in populations that are at high risk. Evidence among heterosexual men in sub-Saharan Africa shows a decreased risk of between 38 percent and 66 percent over two years and in this population studies rate it cost effective. Whether it protects against male-to-female transmission is disputed and whether it is of benefit in developed countries and among men who have sex with men is undetermined.

living in Africa
largest cir cised population in the world
largest population with AIDS in the world
cheguebe@aner fail again
spreading myth
don't bathe
smelly
stinky

[ElNono]

uhhhh...it's pretty simple to flop you into the sink and wash it.

damn sounds like a lot of work.

[Ginobilly]

I come from a long line of Spanish families(1600's) that settled in South Texas(San Antonio,Laredo, (Anahuac,Texas)Nuevo Laredo, Nuevo Leon(my great,great,great grandfather helped found Lampazos and Rodriguez and Anahuac, Nuevo Leon, Mx). There were not only Spanish and Euro families that settled in those regions, but also Jewish and Muslims coming from middle eastern countries. The Spanish,Italian, and German culture that founded this region considers cir cision as child molestation/sexual abuse. So early jewishs and Moslems living side by side with us Euro(early Tejano Mexican Nortenos) were not allowed to use rabbis to do the incision y menos chuparle la verga al pobre child) so they had to train Jewish, Muslim, and even Christian women to do that to the child( they allowed some flawed version of brit milah) because as you know Northern Mexico and South Texas is the most phobic part in the world. Any jew or muslim male caught doing that to their child or another child was considered a pedo,child abuser and could be killed brokeback mountain style by those nazi Spanish/German/Italians who founded the missions. So skilled women did the cir cisions in early North American history. They also did it to many of the labores who worked as ranchers and agricultures who worked in the hot sun. Many of those early Jewish/Muslims finally came to their senses and intermarried with the Spanish, found Jesus Christ and that's the reason I'm here. I am a love child created by the comprise of 3 different cultures that says that live goes on and does prosper. no kid should die or surfer because of this!! In the famous words of San Antonio's very own Shawn Michaels, "And you know it!" Jesus Christ warned us 2,000 years what happens to parents who keep hurting their kids and they killed him" Just like how they killed that poor prosecutor who was going to give up sandusky in 98! It's up to all cultures in general(don't matter if your Jewish,Muslim, Christian, evolutionist, etc) if they take Jesus message seriously. We all been warned in a theological, evolutionary/biological, string theory way.

[Agloco]

not crying at all. Could'nt care either way tbh. Just pointing out there is scientific research proof on the health benefits. so it's no "myth"

I was actually agreeing with you. Sorry if I wasn't clear about it.

No, as Agloco said and I have also experienced, this being limited to uncir cised people is a total myth. People who believe that probably also believe you have to ejaculate to have an orgasm.

Truthbomb here tbh.

m>s should explore such things as Tantric sex. It's not about a foreskin, it's a state of mind.

Don't litigate, copulate.

[Blake]

Truthbomb here tbh.

m>s should explore such things as Tantric sex. It's not about a foreskin, it's a state of mind.

Don't litigate, copulate.

M>S is too thin skinned.

[leemajors]

I come from a long line of Spanish families(1600's) that settled in South Texas(San Antonio,Laredo, (Anahuac,Texas)Nuevo Laredo, Nuevo Leon(my great,great,great grandfather helped found Lampazos and Rodriguez and Anahuac, Nuevo Leon, Mx). There were not only Spanish and Euro families that settled in those regions, but also Jewish and Muslims coming from middle eastern countries. The Spanish,Italian, and German culture that founded this region considers cir cision as child molestation/sexual abuse. So early jewishs and Moslems living side by side with us Euro(early Tejano Mexican Nortenos) were not allowed to use rabbis to do the incision y menos chuparle la verga al pobre child) so they had to train Jewish, Muslim, and even Christian women to do that to the child( they allowed some flawed version of brit milah) because as you know Northern Mexico and South Texas is the most phobic part in the world. Any jew or muslim male caught doing that to their child or another child was considered a pedo,child abuser and could be killed brokeback mountain style by those nazi Spanish/German/Italians who founded the missions. So skilled women did the cir cisions in early North American history. They also did it to many of the labores who worked as ranchers and agricultures who worked in the hot sun. Many of those early Jewish/Muslims finally came to their senses and intermarried with the Spanish, found Jesus Christ and that's the reason I'm here. I am a love child created by the comprise of 3 different cultures that says that live goes on and does prosper. no kid should die or surfer because of this!! In the famous words of San Antonio's very own Shawn Michaels, "And you know it!" Jesus Christ warned us 2,000 years what happens to parents who keep hurting their kids and they killed him" Just like how they killed that poor prosecutor who was going to give up sandusky in 98! It's up to all cultures in general(don't matter if your Jewish,Muslim, Christian, evolutionist, etc) if they take Jesus message seriously. We all been warned in a theological, evolutionary/biological, string theory way.

It's hard to take this seriously with all the Jesus stuff.

Edit: sounded douchier before somehow

[Agloco]

M>S is too thin skinned.

[CuckingFunt]

I assume

You sure do.

From someone who is cir cised, I can attest that the most sensitive part is along the scar line, where I assume a tiny fragment of foreskin tissue remains. the type of feeling is much different than the rest and is MUCH more sensitive. I can also attest that the frenulum is an erogenous zone, more comparable to the female clit than even the glans is. I'm lucky to have most of mine intact, but most or all of it is routinely removed during cir cision.

Good. Your frenulum remains intact. So, then, you've got even less reason to whine about your damaged or to seek res ution for your pain and suffering.

Again, I disagree with you CF in the sense that it is a big deal, bigger than you are making it out to be. You failed to address the findings that cir cision causes permanent changes to an infants brain development, feelings of low self esteem, and the amount of sheer PAIN that these babies go through.

If you can watch these videos and still support this bull then I sincerely hope you die a slow painful death.

I've never supported this bull in the first place. Me calling your whining childish and selfish is not the same thing as me supporting infant cir cision. You're either too obtuse to see the difference, or too desperate to cast me as your opposition, but the idea of me campaigning for infant cir cision is entirely a product of your imagination.

Watch those videos if you dare. I want this ty, disgusting barbaric act seen and known for what it is- infant sexual torture. Anyone who imposes this on infants can burn in .

The screams, the gargling and choking on their own spit, it's just awful and makes me want to throw up.

Then you should put some time and energy into increasing education and/or decreasing misinformation about cir cision so that perhaps infant boys in the future won't have to endure such a fate, rather than whining about your fully functional doodle and making e-threats against the doctors who snipped it two decades ago.

[mavs>spurs]

So i'm just supposed to be okay with it? With your sympathy or not, a crime was committed and justice will be served. I am currently doing everything in my power to increase education about cir cision as well as activism to get money flowing in the direction of regenerative medicine to set millions of men who have suffered from this practice free. I'll pursue activism in the way that I see fit, not at the behest of an anonymous internet persona.

My first life experience on this earth was violation and torture and yours was not, so you have no right to judge me or room to speak.