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And people scoffed me when I said Duncan was ridiculously underpaid thanks to the CBA that took effect before his rookie deal was up.
BTW, factoring in this new KG contract, Garnett has made $120 million more in his career than Duncan. Duncan has some catching up to do, tbh.
And people scoffed me when I said Duncan was ridiculously underpaid thanks to the CBA that took effect before his rookie deal was up.
To be honest, Garnett has been significantly better than Duncan this year. Garnett was awesome on the defensive end.
If Garnett "market value" is $11.3M per year, then Duncan should get less than $10M per year.
lol revisionist history tbh...I said I thought the variables would change. I said they would make a move (something that hadn't done in the past 2-3 years) that was about basketball (and it also really helped out financially too) and that would make them contenders.
Timvp twisting words to grind an axe...shocking. I didn't meltdown. At all. Saying I didn't think the Spurs played hard in the WCF (that came straight from the players mouths and coach Pop) is not melting down, especially when I said I was proud of the overall effort looking back.
No - he's pissy because the Spurs lost and not everyone is^ LJ going HAM on shorty.so damn proud. I was proud of the big picture, but not the WCF - and it wasn't just because they lost it. It was how.
How can you say he is ridiculously underpaid when he is like top 6 all time?
Garnett had a really good defensive year but he's also on a team that relies solely on defense to win. Duncan had a really good defensive year too ... and would have been better if he didn't have to compensates for the Neals and Bonners of the team.
And really, you can't really compare Duncan and Garnett's defense. Duncan is a low post defender and rim protector while Garnett is a pick-and-roll defender and thrives moving his feet. Completely different strengths.
Bruno must be trolling, tbh.
KG doesn't tell us anything - Tim's value was and is known even before KG's contract. The question hasn't changed, it is still just how much Tim wants to take and how that impacts their ability to contend.
Because he's been the better player than Garnett and less paid?
KG had a good year but Duncan is still more pivotal to the Spurs success than KG is to Bostons.
I think the Spurs FO should pay Tim as much as he wants - I have said that from the beginning. I think it's nuts that Spurs fans that love Tim (which I am one of them) tries to paint Tim as this guy the Spurs have completely taken advantage of and try to paint him as underpaid when he's top 6 all time on the list.
Just a really strange argument to me.
Because he's had a better career than guys like KG and Kobe who got paid a lot more.
Don't put words in my mouth, as I never said the Spurs took advantage of Tim. They paid him the most they were legally allowed to under the CBA until he voluntarily took a paycut last contract.
Jordan, Bird & Magic say hi then.
It wasn't just you - it's the crowd that "Spurs owe Tim so much money!!!!! because he's under paid" (which they do owe him, but it's not because he was underpaid).
So if they paid him the most they legally could, how is he underpaid?
The NBA didn't draw anywhere close to the same level of revenue in the days of Bird and Magic. Jordan got paid pretty handsomely at the tail end of his career (his 1998 salary still smokes any one year salary since), though he was really underpaid before 96.
He's underpaid because of the individual player cap that kept him from getting the market value deal Garnett got when there wasn't one.
The only one on the top 5 highest paid list of all time that is anywhere significantly ahead of Tim that isn't better is KG. Kobe is ahead, but not by much money, Shaq is ahead and you could argue he belongs there. It's just KG.
So I don't get the argument.
This is very good news - even though it was highly expected. If there is any player that deserves this, it's our future HOFer and franchise great - Duncan.
Now if the Spurs really want to show their appreciation to Duncan for all his contributions, get him some immediate help on the frontline.
So you can't have it both ways. Fact is, Tim made way more than the best player of all time and is still top 5-6 all time.
I'm not going to even engage DPG21920. He's so concerned about being able to brag about correct predictions that he spent this whole thread playing every possible angle so he could go back and quote himself. I mean dude goes from whining about an extended farewell tour due to the Spurs being cheap to predicting a Spurs championship within the same thread. I'd rather the thread attempt to stay on a singular course, tbh.
If the Spurs and Duncan haven't worked out the contract details yet, KG's deal will certainly come into play. I could see the Spurs saying: "Here's what KG got, do you want the same deal?"
So because of ranking the ~$90 million more Garnett made (not counting this contract) when he could negotiate for market value goes up in smoke? LOL, you're like arguing with a member of congress.
To me, it's Garnett. So it's logical that Duncan has a lower market value.
Personally, Duncan very good season and the Jack trade have change the situation for Spurs. Giving him $12M per year has very little drawback because Spurs aren't in a cap space situation.
Dets funny considering you stalked me in another thread where I was talking about this subject to jab at me (same convo I am having with BB).
You are again making stuff up and twisting words. Spurs weren't a contender. I said I thought they would make a trade at the deadline to make them one. I also said I think it's silly people use the Tim is under paid argument. Not that difficult tbh...
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