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    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    I'm just saying Mono, that even though the master plan (Deron/Dwight) failed miserably, it's not time to panic. The FA crop next year is stellar. Just do the same thing - small one year deals to keep your cap space.

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    I thought Nash was offered 2/12 from the Suns?
    He was. If Sarver stays out of it and lets Babby & Blanks stick to their guns, then Nash is gone.

    My concern stems from what happened with Hill last summer. Babby & Blanks gave Hill a low-ball type offer but an offer that made sense given the position the Suns were in, Sarver heard about it and the other offers Hill was getting, so he went over their heads with an offer WAY above what Hill was getting.

    I'm worried he's gonna do the same thing with Nash.

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    Today definitively proved that Dallas cannot lure big name free agents. It's not happening. Not with Dwight or Paul.

    With OKC and Miami around for the next few years, the Mavs aren't winning anything anyways. They need to blow it up, build a young roster through the draft, ride out the OKC/Miami years and then hopefully re-emerge in 5 years.
    you quit on your team in february 2011 and the team went on to win championship that year, and who the says DH to brooklyn is a done deal already? deron is also mull over options here so our Triple D hope remains alive

    o ye of little faith

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    you quit on your team in february 2011 and the team went on to win championship that year, and who the says DH to brooklyn is a done deal already? deron is also mull over options here so our Triple D hope remains alive

    o ye of little faith
    So what you're saying is...........Mono was wrong about dem Mavs

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    Mavs' PG priorities from here, sources say, are Nash and Jeremy Lin and re-signing J-Kidd. Team has not yet decided if it'll pursue Dragic

    https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNSteinLine

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    Dallas is cautious about chasing Goran Dragic with a big offer, league source tells Y! Mavs aren't as high on him as Rockets, Suns, others.

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    I'm just saying Mono, that even though the master plan (Deron/Dwight) failed miserably, it's not time to panic. The FA crop next year is stellar. Just do the same thing - small one year deals to keep your cap space.
    Danny Ferry realized this before everyone else and traded JJ away for a bunch of expiring deals - and traded away Marvin Williams for Devin Harris' expiring contract.

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    would rather give roddy a bit more trust next season than overpay a yugoslavian

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    Woj just reported what I said - Dallas keeping Dwight in play for next year and trying to pair CP3 and DHO. That is possible, but still unlikely.

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    Woj just reported what I said - Dallas keeping Dwight in play for next year and trying to pair CP3 and DHO. That is possible, but still unlikely.
    Unless the cap increases significantly, they won't be able to clear enough cap space for both. Just like there was never any way to clear enough cpace for both Williams and Howard.

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    Maybe depth wise it is, but Noels is just as much of a beast as Davis, and I can't remember a wing who's as NBA ready as Bazz is with as much potential. Them as a top 2 is pretty legit.

    the team that spends a top 5 pick on Cody Zeller
    I have been watching Noel's games for a couple of years and I don't think he's close to the prospect Davis is. Noel is strictly a defensive player; he's a monster shotblocker and one of the best to come out in years in that area, but I have never seen anything out of him offensively.

    I remember reading about pro scouts just killing this graduating class at the McDonald's All American game; how Muhammed was the only player who looked like he would belong on an NBA roster in a major role.

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    Unless the cap increases significantly, they won't be able to clear enough cap space for both. Just like there was never any way to clear enough cpace for both Williams and Howard.
    Exactly - which is why I thought the original plan was stupid. To blow up a championship core team (in a shortened season) to chase something that could only happen if the players involved left significant money on the table (which doesn't really happen) was foolish.

    This new scenario is possible, but its unlikely because not only would they have to dump players (that aren't that attractive), the incoming guys would need to take less since Dirk makes 20+M and they wont be trading for them.

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    I have been watching Noel's games for a couple of years and I don't think he's close to the prospect Davis is. Noel is strictly a defensive player; he's a monster shotblocker and one of the best to come out in years in that area, but I have never seen anything out of him offensively.

    I remember reading about pro scouts just killing this graduating class at the McDonald's All American game; how Muhammed was the only player who looked like he would belong on an NBA roster in a major role.
    So basically the Suns need to tank for the 1st pick or they're fcked

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    IMO - Mavs need to try (and pray they have a chance) land Dwight and instead of another max guy, surround Dirk/Dwight with depth and value. You can definitely contend that way if Dirk and Dwight are healthy. But the risk/reward is still mind blowingly bad IMO.

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    Exactly - which is why I thought the original plan was stupid. To blow up a championship core team (in a shortened season) to chase something that could only happen if the players involved left significant money on the table (which doesn't really happen) was foolish.


    Some Mav fans here got all pissed when I told them it was impossible for Dallas to clear enough space to offer max deals to both Williams and Howard. That plan was deeply flawed from the get go.

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    What was the strangest to me was Cuban's reaction to perceived risk/reward. Knowing that in order for his master plan to work he would need as much cap space as possible - he was still relying on best case scenario the two players leaving a lot of money on the table. He was ok with that risk and ruining a legit shot to repeat for that reward.

    My original argument was that he could have very easily had his cake and eaten it to with less risk (because if you re-sign Tyson and replace the JJB's....you are still contending) by re-signing Tyson and still bringing in Delonte & Vince to replace JJB/Stevenson. He was not ok with the risk of having a long-term contract (Tyson), but in reality, he very well could have salary dumped the defensive player of the year to get that cap space anyways while still being a legit contender.

    Very strange logic.

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    So basically the Suns need to tank for the 1st pick or they're fcked
    Nah, they're probably fcked either way.

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    The 2014 draft might be the best draft in years tho
    But DRob and Dwight have shown you can't build a le team around a guy who closes out on the screen leading with his bible. A well-timed elbow is worth 1000 lines of quoted scripture. Why's Jabrari gonna be any different?

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    IMO - Mavs need to try (and pray they have a chance) land Dwight and instead of another max guy, surround Dirk/Dwight with depth and value. You can definitely contend that way if Dirk and Dwight are healthy. But the risk/reward is still mind blowingly bad IMO.
    doesn't seem like a huge upgrade over the 2011 champion squad but still that's probably the best scenario for us at this point of time. just build the team around DH/Dirk and hope some minimum players pan out superstar products (like dragic, jeremy lin etc...), hope cuban realizes that good defensive bigs don't grow on trees and how much of a mistake it was to let TC walk

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    Howard for Dirk?

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    Gonhave to agree with tha bloaded Travolta on dis one.
    If mavs organization has any respect for Dirk Ezekiel Nowitzki, dey best to trade him and rebuild tha right way.

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    They should have blown it up after they let Chandler go.

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    Texas: where stars go to die

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    Today definitively proved that Dallas cannot lure big name free agents. It's not happening. Not with Dwight or Paul.

    With OKC and Miami around for the next few years, the Mavs aren't winning anything anyways. They need to blow it up, build a young roster through the draft, ride out the OKC/Miami years and then hopefully re-emerge in 5 years.
    They never had a chance at Deron Williams under the new CBA. If they could offer similar money I bet they could have gotten him, but you can't fault Williams for not leaving $25 million on the table.

    Makes the decision to not resign Chandler even more mystifying. All we hear from Cuban is "I understand the CBA, you don't." Surely he understands then how difficult it is to lure players away from their old teams that are determined to keep them.

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    But if you can land CP3 and Bynum to pair up with Dirk the next season?
    First off, if I were Dirk, I'd demand a trade right now... no sense wasting ANOTHER year in the twilight of his career chasing after more stars that probably won't come to Dallas... secondly, if I were a Mavfan, I'd hope Cuban was smart enough to realize this is his cue to start tanking...

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