I'll give you that they were most definitely concerned about making a profit (revenue sharing was a hot topic during negotiations). But that still doesn't change the fact they owners were upset about the LAKERS side of the CP3 deal, not the Hornets.Now you're the one really reaching. Never did Stern say anything about the Lakers giving up more money to get the deal done. The owners (who all had a stake in the Hornets at the time) wanted Stern to tell the Lakers they had to include Bynum AND Gasol in the deal if they wanted the league's blessing on CP3 to L.A. This was about stopping another SUPER FRIENDS from happening, whether it be CP3/Kobe/Bynum or later on: CP3/Kobe/Howard. All the owners knew the Magic were considering a Bynum for Howard swap along with this trade, and the Lakers not losing Bynum in the CP3 deal left the door open for the Lakers to get the best PG AND the best center to pair with Kobe. The other owners were not gonna allow that to happen and have the Heat vs Lakers in the 5 NBA Finals. In other words, they were worried about compe ive balance....
Here's an article from Yahoo last year:
“NBA commissioner David Stern has killed the New Orleans Hornets’ trade of Chris Paul after several owners complained about the league-owned team dealing the All-Star point guard to the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. Some owners pushed Stern to demand that trade be nullified, and the Hornets be made to keep Paul on the roster for the foreseeable future, sources said. Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban was one of the most vocal in a chorus of owners irate with the belief that the five-month lockout had happened largely to stop big-market teams from leveraging small-market teams for star players pending free agency. All the players involved in the trade have been told to report to their teams for the start of training camp on Friday. Before Stern intervened, the Lakers had reached an agreement to acquire Paul in a three-team trade that would have cost them Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. Under terms of the deal, the Lakers would have sent Gasol to the Rockets. The Hornets would have received Odom, Rockets guards Kevin Martin and Goran Dragic and forward Luis Scola, league sources said.”
Or how about this letter from Cleveland owner dan Gilbert:
I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn't appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. [...]
I just don't see how we can allow this trade to happen.
I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?
Don't take every troll statement so literally, pass. Of course teams WILL deal with the Lakers (especially if they need to get rid of bad contracts since they have the highest payroll and could care less about luxury taxes with their new TV contract), but the point of the matter is most teams in the league are hesitant to deal good players to them with their history of lopsided deals, and now the CP3 trade/potential Howard trade adding to that history. Since the Lakers are the perfect example of the lack of compe ive balance in the league, owners (who have the final say on any deal their GMs make) don't want to help the Lakers continue contending by trading All Stars to them. Despite where their star players may want to play, no way the Suns are gonna help the Lakers with a sign & trade; likewise for the Spurs, Portland, Boston, etc. It's not just the Spurs or their fans that don't like to deal with the Lakers. They are the EVIL EMPIRE of the NBA, whether you want to admit it or not.
EDIT: I stand corrected! The Suns are idiots if the recent news is true!
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LkrFan coming in and slobbin the knobs of fellow Laker fans, while adding NOTHING to the conversation, par for the course....Somebody bold pass1st for this post alone. GNSF in denial. This post should have its own stickied thread. It will be interesting to see cowtipper tries to^ .
Good pass. I concur 100% son.
He doesn't need any help tbh. He's doing a fine job of kicking your ass by himself. Why should I pile on?LkrFan coming in and slobbin the knobs of fellow Laker fans, while adding NOTHING to the conversation, par for the course....
Stern doesn't have to say it because it was the sentiment around the league's small market teams. You can go back and ready Gilbert's re ed email for a sample of what the teams against the trade were feeling. He wasn't worried as much about them getting D12 as he was about Lakers not spending much at all in the process. Including Bynum wasn't the point of them not wanting to trade, it was the fact that Lakers were likely going to lower their expenditures if the trades went in their favor (which seemed that way before the veto). This wasn't a matter of Lakers being stacked, it was a matter of them being stacked and still looking good from a financial perspective. It's no coincidence that around this time talks of revenue sharing started to peek out of the media.
Not only WILL they deal with the Lakers, but they WANT to deal with them. As we seen today, your initial statements aren't really valid. Teams will put Lakers on their priority list if they have something they want.
That being said, I'm not happy we acquired Nash.
lol at this thread
The lakers cutting payroll was only part of the equation. There are NUMEROUS reports of owners upset about the Lakers preparing to stack their team with CP3 and Howard at the expense of small market teams like NO and Orlando being left with scraps to rebuild with. If anyone knows how that feels, it's Dan Gilbert ("The Decision" causing the Cavs to go from first to worst), so you can bet there was more to his anger than the Cavs missing out on some of the Lakers luxury tax money.
Today's events were another example of free agents still holding their small market teams hostage, and I don't know if there will ever be a way to stop it. The Suns stood to get a better package from the Knicks until they pulled Shumpert off the table.
When Nash finally decided he wanted to play close to home in L.A., there was nothing Phoenix could do but take the Lakers scraps (crappy late 1st rounders), or let him walk for nothing. Hopefully Phoenix can get someone useful before the deadline from the trade exception, so it won't be a total loss.
I'll give Mitch K credit for creating that Odom trade exception. It paid off for him once Nash decided the Lakers was where he wanted to go.
I also agree Nash on the Lakers isn't necessarily a good thing for them. Scoring was never an issue for them. Mike Brown is gonna wish he had hair to pull out while watching Nash get torched defensively.
Suns had plenty of chances to trade holim last season to get better value.
No one wanted him last year without a long term commitment, which he was unwilling to give. Besides, he led PHX to believe he was gonna re-up with them and stay 1-2 more years.
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He didn't lead us on. We didn't even make him an offer. We pushed him out the door. All he wanted was the 3 years and a decent salary. He took the hint. We didn't even try.
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