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  1. #51
    Allenhu Joshbar DeadlyDynasty's Avatar
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    blow the roof off this motha a like we did last night son, and hit ya wif da bop gun

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  3. #53
    Tuff Juice TheRealCB's Avatar
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    Offer max to Hibbert and hope Indiana doesn't match,if they do,ask Dirk where he wants to be traded..

  4. #54
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    Offer max to Hibbert and hope Indiana doesn't match,if they do,ask Dirk where he wants to be traded..
    dude's well worth the max and the starting salary would be something like 11m, which means we'll be able to sign another max player this summer with the space we have. Eric Gordon?

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    dude's well worth the max and the starting salary would be something like 11m, which means we'll be able to sign another max player this summer with the space we have. Eric Gordon?
    He has "signed" an offer sheet with the Suns...Hibbert is our only good option,instead of trading for Howard.

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    dude's well worth the max and the starting salary would be something like 11m, which means we'll be able to sign another max player this summer with the space we have. Eric Gordon?
    Hibbert's max is somewhere between $13m and $14.5m starting.

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    Hibbert's max from Dallas would be 4yr/58M.

    Coincidentally, that's the exact same amount that Tyson Chandler got from the Knicks.

  8. #58
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    never mind, lol

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    Veteran Mel_13's Avatar
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    There's a technicality in the 2011 CBA that uses a smaller percentage of projected BRI for the salary cap when computing max deals, so that a "25% max salary" deal that would have started at $14.5 million instead started at $12.9 million last season.

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q16

    This new CBA is full of little goodies like that to chip away at player salaries.
    Yeah, individual owners with cap space will still grossly overpay players lucky enough to be on the market at the right time, but the aggregate result of the 2011 CBA was a massive win for the owners as a group vis-a-vis the players as a group.

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    Hibbert's max from Dallas would be 4yr/58M.

    Coincidentally, that's the exact same amount that Tyson Chandler got from the Knicks.
    I'll never understand why Cuban let TC walk unless the other couple of guys who also left were part of the reason. The same Mavs roster probably makes it to the Finals again this year.

    It's expensive to go twice if your best guys having expiring contracts after a ring.

  11. #61
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    mavs already blew it up...

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    I can see Dirk being upset and wanting to be traded, but I don't see Cuban ever getting to the point where even considers that as an option.

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    Like I said, Dirk already quit - he'll show up out of shape and coast throughout the year and rightly so. He's find traveling the world all Summer with his 20M a year.

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    Like I said, Dirk already quit - he'll show up out of shape and coast throughout the year and rightly so. He's find traveling the world all Summer with his 20M a year.
    I would be mad at him if he was in a gym working out while Cuban and Donnie are ting the bed.

    Plus,if Dirk asks a trade,Dirk gets a trade.

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    manu + sjax for dirk. mavs can pursue their howard/cp3 combo next year.

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    manu + sjax for dirk. mavs can pursue their howard/cp3 combo next year.
    Why not throw Bnner in the deal

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    Why not throw Bnner in the deal
    dirk + marion for manu/sjax/bonner works out perfectly. spurs add a few draft picks for dallas' trouble. just do it.

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    dirk + marion for manu/sjax/bonner works out perfectly. spurs add a few draft picks for dallas' trouble. just do it.
    Getting rid of Bonner is a pipe dream, tbh.

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    Just amnesty Bonner's sorry ass.

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    Great read:

    http://www.eightpointsnineseconds.co...ets-cap-space/

    If this were the old CBA rules, we probably would have kept everyone together. But the rules changed.

    If we were able to sign everyone to two-year deals, that would have possibly changed things as well, but that wasn’t in the cards either.

    What you are missing is that it’s not about the luxury tax. It’s about the ability to improve our team going forward.

    The reality is that in the new system, cap room will have far more value than it had in the past. I realize that everyone is all freaked out about how and where free agents and future free agents are going, but it’s not just about getting one guy.

    We are not saving cap room in hope of that one super special free agent being there. It’s about being in the position to improve every year and possibly add some significant, younger players next year and in future years.

    What I don’t think people understand is that once a team hits the tax level the ability to improve our team is reduced dramatically. In addition, your ability to make trades is reduced. So basically, if we made the move to keep everyone together with five-year deals, the team we have today is going to be the team we have for the next five years. If we were a young team it would be one thing. But we are not a young team.

    In the past, it was different. If we had a problem, I could fix any mistake by having Donnie find a trade and just taking on more money. That is how we got Jet, the Matrix, JKidd, Tyson. It was always about taking on more money. That trick doesn’t work any more for teams over the tax. So we have to change our approach. By getting back under the cap, we have a ton of flexibility not only for free agent signings but also trades. If we can get the right guy(s) via free agency, great. if we do it via trade, great. We have that much more flexibility to make moves.

    Again, I know this is tough for all of us after winning a championship. But we still believe as much as last year we are in a position to compete for a championship.

    The difference is that with this approach, we can be in a position to compete for a championship this year and to reload and continue to compete in future years.

    By just signing everyone to long-term deals, there is no chance of that happening.

    We won last year because we put ourselves in a position to create opportunities that brought us the right players at the right time.

    We structured contracts in ways that gave us upside. The rules are different now, and while it makes it tougher this year because of the affection we have for many of the guys that are leaving, if we want the Mavs to be able to compete for championships in future years as well, it’s a hard decision, but I believe the right decision.

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    offer brook lopez the max

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    Translation: our front office has been a one trick pony specializing in getting assets by bloating our cap. Now that the NBA took that trick away, we're ed, and we don't have the slightest idea how to get any players.

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    Translation: our front office has been a one trick pony specializing in getting assets by bloating our cap. Now that the NBA took that trick away, we're ed, and we don't have the slightest idea how to get any players.
    Is Donnie Nelson a good GM?

    Name one value pick he's made besides Josh Howard.

    What premier FAs has he lured to Dallas? Maybe Shawn Marion, and even then they had to give him a 5-year deal that nobody else would.

    His one great trade (Tyson Chandler) was an accident because they struck out on other targets and they wanted to kick the can down the road by getting an expiring contract for Damp's expired deal.

    Of the three teams that dominated the 00's (Lakers, Spurs, Mavs), only the Mavs didn't win multiple les precisely because they consistently failed to surround Dirk with the proper supporting cast.

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    Veteran tesseractive's Avatar
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    Is Donnie Nelson a good GM?

    Name one value pick he's made besides Josh Howard.

    What premier FAs has he lured to Dallas? Maybe Shawn Marion, and even then they had to give him a 5-year deal that nobody else would.

    His one great trade (Tyson Chandler) was an accident because they struck out on other targets and they wanted to kick the can down the road by getting an expiring contract for Damp's expired deal.

    Of the three teams that dominated the 00's (Lakers, Spurs, Mavs), only the Mavs didn't win multiple les precisely because they consistently failed to surround Dirk with the proper supporting cast.
    Meh, good GMs put themselves in a position to be lucky.

    It's not obvious to me that Dirk is fundamentally a better talent than, say, KG. The Mavs were much better at putting talent around Dirk than the Timberwolves were with KG. And other teams like Orlando with Howard and Cleveland with LeBron have also been incapable of putting a good enough team around a franchise guy.

    Losing Chandler last year was a disaster (as everyone has realized here), and this offseason looks like a complete cluster so far. But even taking that into account, I'd say Nelson is one of the better GMs in the league. No, he's not an elite drafter, but very few teams are. Up until this year, he's pretty much kept reloading the Mavs to keep them in the hunt every year -- that's absolutely a hallmark of a good GM.

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    Hibbert's max from Dallas would be 4yr/58M.

    Coincidentally, that's the exact same amount that Tyson Chandler got from the Knicks.


    Let's see...


    Mark Cuban is part of the ownership contingent that complained loudly about the CP3 to LA deal. Trade gets vetoed.

    Mavs sign & trade Tyson Chandler to the Knicks and get a 1st round pick & a trade exception.

    Mavs trade that trade exception & a 1st Round pick to the Lakers for Lamar Odom.

    Mark Cuban brags about stealing Odom from the Lakers.

    Odom tanks in Dallas.

    Lakers trade 1st Round pick to Cleveland for Razor Ramon Sessions.

    Knicks and Mavericks try very hard to land Nash, but the Lakers end up doing it with the trade exception that passed through both of their hands.

    The Knicks end up with Jason Kidd from Dallas.

    The Mavs are trying to get the Lakers' sloppy seconds: Razor Ramon Sessions

    The Lakers end up with Steve Nash.


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