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So all three of the officers were off-duty? Good look getting a resisting arrest charge to stick when the person "arresting" Peterson didn't have any authority to.
So will Goodell suspend him under the NFL player conduct policy?
Adrian Peterson arrested in Texas
Updated: July 7, 2012, 5:29 PM ET
ESPN.com news services
HOUSTON -- Minnesota Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson was arrested on a charge of resisting arrest after an early-morning incident where police say it took three officers to subdue him.
Houston Police Department spokesperson Kese Smith said Peterson was at a downtown nightclub early Saturday morning when an off-duty Houston police officer working security asked Peterson and a group of people he was with to leave because the club had closed.
Kese said the man identified himself as a police officer. The officer left to tell other patrons to leave the club before returning to Peterson's group again to tell it to leave.
Kese said Peterson turned around and told the officer that he heard him the first time and pushed him in the shoulder, causing him to stumble. The officer told Peterson he was under arrest and to put his hands behind his back. Peterson began yelling, pulled away and "assumed an aggressive stance," so another off-duty officer came to help. Peterson continued to struggle with both.
The 27-year-old player finally was handcuffed with the help of a third off-duty officer. Peterson complained of shortness of breath after he was taken to a Houston jail and was examined by Houston Fire Department personnel, who said he was OK.
Peterson, from Palestine, Texas, was released from jail Saturday on a $1,000 bond. The charge is a misdemeanor, and Peterson is due in court on Friday, according to the Houston Chronicle.
Team spokesman Bob Hagan said Saturday the Vikings "are aware of the situation and are gathering more information."
Peterson ran for 970 yards and 12 touchdowns last season before tearing the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments in his left knee on Dec. 24. The injury-shortened season broke a streak of four straight seasons with at least 1,200 yards rushing for the former Oklahoma standout.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
So all three of the officers were off-duty? Good look getting a resisting arrest charge to stick when the person "arresting" Peterson didn't have any authority to.
Why would a cop have to be on duty to arrest someone who committed a crime right in front of them?
committed a crime? He shoved someone a little bit having no idea it was a cop (and shoving an off duty cop isn't considered "assaulting an officer" by any stretch of the imagination).
And that's besides the point, cops don't have the authority to arrest someone 24/7. Resisting a citizen's arrest isn't a crime.
I agree that legally, there is a good chance that the charges will be dropped. But that doesn't mean that Goodell won't take action under the NFL player conduct policy, which has it's own set of rules and regulations seperate from the law. I guess it just depends on the details that are presented to Goodell whether he decides on a fine, suspension, or no action at all. The fact that he was only charged with a misdemeanor should rule out a suspension, but with Goodell's rulings, who knows.
And that's besides the point, cops don't have the authority to arrest someone 24/7. Resisting a citizen's arrest isn't a crime.
Last edited by Darth_Pelican; 07-07-2012 at 08:29 PM.
If a cop witnesses someone commiting a crime they can arrest you.. Perhaps if the cop is out of jurisiction maybe not but that doesn't sound like the case.... It is not a citizens arrest he is a police officer.. Some states require police to carry their gun and ID all the time...And that's besides the point, cops don't have the authority to arrest someone 24/7. Resisting a citizen's arrest isn't a crime.
Last edited by dbreiden83080; 07-07-2012 at 09:12 PM.
Sweet, next time someone hassles me I'll just claim to be an off-duty officer.
Seperated at birth???
I guess the next time someone shoves me after I harass them I'll claim to be an off-duty police officer and arrest them.
Random question but why do you use ellipses rather than actual sentences?
Last edited by DUNCANownsKOBE; 07-07-2012 at 10:20 PM.
Are you serious? A cop can make an arrest anytime, anywhere. They are never fully "off-duty." whether or not you agree what he did was a crime or worthy of being arrested is irrelevant, but yes, a cop is able to make an arrest any time of day, whether he "punched in" or not. All he has to do is identify himself as a PO first, which the article states he did.
I guess the next time someone shoves me after I harass them I'll claim to be an off-duty police officer and arrest them.
Random question but why do you use ellipses rather than actual sentences?
Man, I'm surprised rapists don't identify themselves as "Off-duty officers" when they're trying to abduct victims
The only crime he was charged with was resisting arrest. I'm curious how a cop can arrest someone solely for resist arrest seeing that a crime is usually committed before the arrest happens. Maybe the off duty cop had psychic powers and knew Peterson would resist if he was arrested.
Last edited by DUNCANownsKOBE; 07-07-2012 at 10:51 PM.
I use the off-duty cop schtick to confiscate large quan ies of drugs from known dealers. Works like a charm.
100% untrue....
So where does an off duty cop have jurisdiction.....better yet, where does an off duty cop not have jurisdiction since off duty cops don't exactly have precincts to worry about.
There are several different schools of thought where the powers of an off-duty police officer is concerned. A duly licensed law enforcement officer generally has the authority to enforce the law 24 hours a day, seven days a week, but only after establishing his or her iden y as a police officer. The designation "off-duty" only means the officer is not working a regular shift for the police department, not living as a private citizen with no authority whatsoever. An off-duty police officer can be employed as a private security guard and still have the power to arrest offenders or in many cir stances carry a concealed weapon.
http://www.wisegeek.com/does-an-off-...-authority.htm
I can find 14 other links for you if you'd like..
Couple of questions...
Were the off-duty cops mere patrons?
Were they employees of the bar?
Were they as off-duty employees asked, thus empowered by the bar to help clear said bar?
Did the cops inquire with the bar manager as to whether Peterson's celebrity gave him a bit more liberty with the whole "closed" thing, as is typical?
Did anyone hear the off-duty cop identify as a cop, or is it merely the cops word?
Why were so many off-duty cops patrons-turned-do-gooders to clear out the bar?
Why are you confronting people without bar managers/ownership empowering you?
Sounds like asshole off-duty cops looking for to bust... Sucks a probably buzzed football player with no background of activity like this became their target.
And before people jump in and claim I have no proof there's asshole cops in Houston: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1zK7Ivtr7
Where these can feel empowered to be s, others can/will as well.
EDIT: Watch the video here... The cops pulled the "combative/resisting" again. It seems like Houston PD, on or off duty, feel as though they can instigate , maybe even violating your civil rights in the process, arrest you on threat of a felony then drop it down to a misdemeanor. If a plain-clothed man gets uppity with me, I take issue, and if a uniformed officer violates my 4th amendment, I'm going to be pissed.
Seems Houston PD thinks me standing up for my liberties en led them to arrest.
Last edited by JMarkJohns; 07-08-2012 at 01:12 AM.
I now read he was "working security" ... so this cop moonlights as a bouncer. I'm sure the force loves that.
So he was empowered by management to do what he did, but I still maintain it sounds like the bouncer was an obnoxious prick. Bars, especially when celebrity groups are involved, don't just clear out quickly.
I've been at a concert where the owner of the bar was called in because the band wouldn't stop performing. happens.
all this bull about the cops/off duty/wannabe/whatever.
It's all about Peterson not knowing how to carry himself in the position he is in, what he was actually thinking he was just another young black dude on the prowlWhen will these guys figure it out?
Millionaires need to carry themselves like what they are.
From the link you posted:
This does not mean, however, that an off-duty police officer can use his or her authority for personal reasons. When not in uniform, a police officer has the same limited rights as any other citizen when it comes to personal responsibility and behavior. For example, an off-duty police officer attending a private party cannot pull a gun on a fellow guest or force an intoxicated party-goer to stop drinking. He or she can place a person under citizen's arrest until an on-duty police officer arrives, but many police departments discourage off-duty police officers from actively participating in such an arrest unless the situation is life-threatening.
go back to moderating the bull forum
You can argue it all you want, and pump your posts full of emoticons until your fingers bleed, but that doesn't change the fact that an off-duty cop CAN make arrests.From the link you posted:
go back to moderating the bull forum
Whether or not AP deserved it, or the police officer was too much of a cowboy, is irrelevant.
Like I said, I'm surprised rapists don't pose as "Off-duty" cops when they abduct their victims. If resisting the arrest of someone claiming to be an off duty cops can lead to a resisting arrest charge, it'd be a pretty effective way to get victims in their car.
The link Dgayden posted proves my point, it's nothing more than a citizen's arrest until an on-duty cop arrives. I can also make citizen's arrests and then call the cops to make a real arrest.
He doesn't get it.. He must live in a city where he can punch an off duty cop in the face but they have ZERO authority to arrest him..
Here's the video.
"Adrian's my friend"
Sounds like an educated crowd
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